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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: Brown Deer

Because the attorney had power of attorney and needed to complete the necessary paperwork at the HDoH and sign for Obama.


281 posted on 04/29/2011 9:37:06 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Drawsing

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2712636/posts?page=257#257


282 posted on 04/29/2011 9:37:47 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Bouilhet

Why center the information? To get it accurately centered you have to count letters, divide by two, and add it to the number of spaces available. A pain in the rear. And for what purpose? Especially since Obama’s is the ONLY time anybody ever did it that way. That is the point that is being made, and it is a very valid point. It’s an anomaly for very possibly the same typist who typed the Nordyke BC’s to not just use the left-hand margin and tabs.


283 posted on 04/29/2011 9:39:05 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: RS_Rider

I won’t believe Trump is off/away from the birth issue until he says it is no longer important. As I recall Trump qualified his first comment on Obama’s presentation with ‘if valid’. I’m no dihard Trump supporter but I do think he is picking his battles,e.g. the likes of comments made in Las Vegas.


284 posted on 04/29/2011 9:39:05 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: RS_Rider

I won’t believe Trump is off/away from the birth issue until he says it is no longer important. As I recall Trump qualified his first comment on Obama’s presentation with ‘if valid’. I’m no dihard Trump supporter but I do think he is picking his battles,e.g. the likes of comments made in Las Vegas.


285 posted on 04/29/2011 9:39:25 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Don’t play dumb. You know that there are simpler ways of doing that.


286 posted on 04/29/2011 9:40:38 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: CommieCutter

Yep. He looks like he’s on the right track. The comments are pretty good too, but I think the demonstrator is missing an important point. If he had used a sample with a similar colored and patterned background, we could see if that function effects the doc in the same way. Such as the white glow around the text that knocks out the safety pattern and sharpening of the portions of text that are being effected.

As it is, we only see that the process effects some text while leaving others on the background layer.


287 posted on 04/29/2011 9:41:54 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Brown Deer
"Lakin's case had nothing to do with a birth certificate.

Sure it did. 0bama is NOT a "natural born" Citizen and has no right to be in office!

Non sequitur.

Lakin's case had nothing to do with Obama's status. That Lakin demanded documentation of anything doesn't change the fact that he disobeyed direct orders from his superior officer. Production of Obama's BC would have changed nothing regarding the charges he faced.

288 posted on 04/29/2011 9:47:06 PM PDT by mlo
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To: butterdezillion

The author of that article is not the author of the book who filed the FOIA request. Her book will detail all of it. I think you scanned the documents but didn’t thorougly read them because your questions (most of them) are answered within the INS file of Senior.


289 posted on 04/29/2011 9:47:14 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Nachum

This is from the network that LIED claiming they had seen Obama’s long form birth certificate before he decided to release it for the first time. Fox News is as bad as cnnnbccbsabcmsnbcpbs.


290 posted on 04/29/2011 9:47:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Brown Deer

Brown Deer: “Then maybe you should spend your time researching that, instead of arguing against other people’s findings.”


Well actually, that is what I am doing. A number of people have posted some interesting source material on this thread that I had not previously seen. So it is helpful.

Besides, what good would it be if this thread was full of people that just responded with “atta boy” and did not look at the speculations with a critical eye.

I believe there are legitimate comments that question the Obama document on this thread but the vast majority are merely uninformed, wishful thinking.


291 posted on 04/29/2011 9:49:02 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: F15Eagle
"I understand. I’m just saying Lakin asked for the LFBC which seemingly, was easy to produce."

So what? He asked for it. So did a lot of other people. Obama was under no obligation to produce it, and didn't.

None of which has anything to do with the charges Lakin faced. And let's not forget, even going by Lakin's invalid excuse for his conduct, had he gotten Obama's BC it would have given him no cover, would it?

292 posted on 04/29/2011 9:49:43 PM PDT by mlo
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To: CommieCutter
"It’s also odd that I’ve seen a lot of OLDER birther claims (that have been debunked) getting repeated in the last few days as well..."

If the Obama handlers are smart, they will use fake Birthers to repeat the weakest arguments. Then few people will take it seriously when real evidence of forgery is found.

It is like wolves in shepherd's clothing are crying wolf.

293 posted on 04/29/2011 9:50:13 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Tatze

We don’t know whether we have valid legal documents or not. The white copy shows no signs of a seal, and the green copy seems to have been made tamper-able at the least and shows just a faint outline of a circle.

Ultimately, given the documented law-breaking of the HDOH, the only way we ever will know that anything out of their office is legitiate is by looking at the transaction logs for the records. Just like with the draft registration, where the bureaucrats said the record was genuine but the automatic mechanical date stamp said it was created in ‘08 - the stuff that can’t be manipulated is about all a reasonable person can trust when the keepers of the records have already been caught breaking laws, lying, and manipulating their records. Like the HDOH has.


294 posted on 04/29/2011 9:52:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Brown Deer

I’m not “playing dumb.” I can’t help it that you’re so wrapped up in this conspiracy theory that you can’t see daylight. What is perfectly logical birthers will turn into a conspiracy. It would have taken longer to Fed Ex paperwork back and forth to get signatures than it did for Obama to issue a letter and send his attorney to go get the documents. Expensive? Maybe. But do you think Obama cares? He likely isn’t paying for it.


295 posted on 04/29/2011 9:54:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: butterdezillion
Why center the information? To get it accurately centered you have to count letters, divide by two, and add it to the number of spaces available. A pain in the rear. And for what purpose? Especially since Obama’s is the ONLY time anybody ever did it that way. That is the point that is being made, and it is a very valid point. It’s an anomaly for very possibly the same typist who typed the Nordyke BC’s to not just use the left-hand margin and tabs.

Centering the information in this case does not mean centering it mathematically (which actually would be impossible unless the forms were specifically drawn-up in accordance with the typewriter that was going to be used). Centering here means eyeballing it, which is clearly how this particular form was filled out. Not any more of a pain than any other way of filling out the form. As for the fact that Obama's is the only one out of four examples (that I've seen, all from different years except the Nordyke - where, it should be noted, the street address is centered, not left-justified) doesn't mean much at all, statistically or otherwise.

296 posted on 04/29/2011 9:55:45 PM PDT by Bouilhet
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To: UnwashedPeasant

That’s kind of what I thought. A lot of strange handles around lately.


297 posted on 04/29/2011 9:58:53 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: butterdezillion

You haven’t read Obama’s letter to the HDoH or their response, have you? Obama obtained two certifed copies. They were physical sheets of paper.


298 posted on 04/29/2011 10:00:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: butterdezillion

You haven’t read Obama’s letter to the HDoH or their response, have you? Obama obtained two certifed copies. They were physical sheets of paper.


299 posted on 04/29/2011 10:01:00 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Nachum

French-sounding expert. Mexican-sounding software. Islamic-sounding president. I dunno.


300 posted on 04/29/2011 10:01:37 PM PDT by matt1234 (Union rank-and-file are now dem brownshirt rank-and-file.)
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