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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: Tatze

Why do you think that Stanley Ann’s friends would make up a story like that?


241 posted on 04/29/2011 8:58:58 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: CommieCutter

Bon Appetit Birth Certificate…

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/bon-appetite-birth-certificate/


243 posted on 04/29/2011 9:00:12 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Nachum

244 posted on 04/29/2011 9:00:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: EvasiveManuever
Not two of the three.

Some utilities to produce a PDF from a scan will attempt to formulate whatever mix of bitonal, color, and grayscale graphics will yield the best compromise between compression and quality.

245 posted on 04/29/2011 9:01:00 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Brown Deer; All; Lazamataz

That’s perfect. Excellent link all.

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html

Post it everywhere.

UKELEE WAS A DIFFERENT REGISTRAR BECAUSE HE WAS NOT THE REGISTRAR FOR THE Kapi’olani HOSPITAL!!! (The NORDYKE TWINS had a different registrar because they WERE Born there!! ).

That mean Kow-O-Bumma was NOT born there.


246 posted on 04/29/2011 9:01:01 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: Brown Deer

I have no reason to accept or reject their story. But we also have valid legal documents that say otherwise.

BTW, give a me link to supposed story and I’ll read it.


248 posted on 04/29/2011 9:01:43 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: visually_augmented
That is why I think we need to concentrate on the content and not the “layers”, OCR, or typed or stamped text.

Then maybe you should spend your time researching that, instead of arguing against other people's findings.
249 posted on 04/29/2011 9:02:23 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I dunno. Are you suggesting he didn’t do that?


250 posted on 04/29/2011 9:04:06 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Bouilhet

I apologize for over-reacting.

To many obots wanting to rationalize what seems to be either a) gross incompetence or b) a blatant “in your face” statement from the White House.

Centering? Its doable. But why do it? I have 5 other copies of images of Hawaii LFBCs from the era that I trust are good. All are left justifed and obviously typed on a machine with pre-set tabs to match the form.

Obama’s is the only one where there is an obvious centering in multiple fields. And the X’s that off the type line are another serious red flag.

Again, I apologize.


251 posted on 04/29/2011 9:05:22 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: EvasiveManuever

Different registrar signature because Obama’s was signed by the Local Registrar and the Nordyke’s were signed by the Deputy Registrar. You can see on the Nordyke form where it was stamped “DEPUTY” to the left of the signature.

Seriously, some of these theories are really way out there.


252 posted on 04/29/2011 9:05:46 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: butterdezillion

butter: “Brown Deer’s point still stands though. If Obama was born at Kapiolani like the Nordykes, it was probably the same person who typed all those BC’s. Why did someone who used tabs to type both Nordyke BC’s all of a sudden use the space bar instead for Obama’s?”


I’m not so sure you can say they were typed in the same location. Especially since they have different “local registrar” signatures. I think Tatze mentioned that the HDOH typed these documents, not the individual hospitals so it is very possible they were issued in different locations? And they were certainly processed on different days (Aug 8 vs. Aug 11) so there could have been a different secretary typing the forms. It would be very informative to have another form processed on Aug 8 as a verification...


253 posted on 04/29/2011 9:06:09 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Brown Deer

That DOB and the SSN came from Obama Senior’s INS file. Yes, he obtained a SSN because he asked for permision to work part time to help with his expenses in Hawaii.


254 posted on 04/29/2011 9:06:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Tatze
give a me link to supposed story and I’ll read it.

I'm not looking it up right now. There's been plenty of discussion on it here at FR over the past couple of years. I'm surprized that you know nothing about it, yet you are now all of sudden junping in on every BC thread and trying to discredit every single theory that shows 0bama as a fraud.
255 posted on 04/29/2011 9:07:57 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

You’re saying that Obama had the actual physical certified copy that was on white paper and the reporters could look at it and feel the seal, make photocopies of it, take pictures, and post online the copies that they made? Is that what you’re saying? Is there a place where a reporter put that in an article?


256 posted on 04/29/2011 9:09:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Mr. K; Brown Deer
I saw this comment posted on another website :

I downloaded the original certificate from the whitehouse website yesterday. I wouldn’t call it an original. Yes you can open it in layers in Adobe Illustrator and see all of the modifications but what I haven’t seen anyone post is that you can open it in Adobe Bridge with is a great tool for image management. In that it shows you the dates that the document was modified and it shows each day it was modified and how many times per day and it shows that the Birth Certificate with it’s date from the Hawiian registrar of April 25th 2011 shown at the bottom of the certificate has been modified by photo programs back to Oct 2010! This shows that it has been re-worked for 8 months prior to it even being created according to the stamp on it.

I am not familiar with this software, are you ? Is the above comment true ? If so, this would definately show that was a manufactured doc that was not just scanned on Apr 27 as they claim.

257 posted on 04/29/2011 9:09:47 PM PDT by TheCipher
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To: TheCipher

Bilderbergers done it. No, the Masons. Or maybe the elders of Zion? I know, the Scientologists.

Is Free Republic becoming the birther tinfoil conspiracy central?


258 posted on 04/29/2011 9:11:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bluecat6

Yes, left justified is what I would expect typing forms.


259 posted on 04/29/2011 9:12:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion
Brown Deer’s point still stands though. If Obama was born at Kapiolani like the Nordykes, it was probably the same person who typed all those BC’s. Why did someone who used tabs to type both Nordyke BC’s all of a sudden use the space bar instead for Obama’s?

If the same person did type both the Nordyke COLB's, why does one say HONOLULU, OAHU and one says HONOLULU, HAWAII??

260 posted on 04/29/2011 9:12:47 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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