Posted on 04/28/2011 5:55:29 AM PDT by ZGuy
Being gay is a gift from God, asserts one church in Ohio.
Thats the message that Central United Methodist Church is spreading throughout their community via a digital billboard, launched on Monday.
This simple statement, the church announced, is intended to be a gift to those who have experienced hurt and discrimination because of their real or perceived sexual orientation.
The Church seeks nothing less than the healing of the world, and Central UMC wants to offer words and acts of healing to those hurt and marginalized, the website states.
Jeff Buchanan, the director of Exodus Church Equipping & Student Ministries, agrees that the Church must display love and compassion for those in the LGBT community. But he opposes the message that CUMC is sending through their Being Gay is a Gift from God campaign.
Why would God bestow this gift only to condemn it throughout the Bible? This would seemingly contradict His character as a God who is loving and just.
The Toledo churchs controversial billboard ad is directly connected to a long month-long sermon series by its new pastor, Bill Barnard. The church is hoping that the ad will move the public towards tolerance, reported ABC 13, and not perpetuate anti-gay attitudes and behaviors, which were harming the LGBT community.
The purposes of their recently launched campaign are threefold: to offer welcome to all persons who are gay; to challenge the larger Church to fully accept persons who are gay into the life of the Church; and to call on all people to bring all the gifts of who they are to God.
By welcoming and living in community with faithful Christians who happen to be gay, we have come to understand that being gay is part of who God made them to be, CUMC proclaims on their site. And by gay Christians bringing all that they are to God, the body of Christ has been strengthened.
In fact, we would experience the body of Christ as incomplete without LGBT persons.
Barnard told ABC, We really believe that being gay is a gift from God, and its not anything that anyone has to apologize for or be ashamed about. So thats how [the campaign] came to be.
Believing sexuality to be a good gift from God or as they declared yet another way in Gods infinite diversity CUMC defines sin as denying who God created them to be.
The overwhelming scientific evidence is that people are born with their sexual orientation, that it is not a choice, the church contends. Fully accepting ones sexual orientation and identity is key to leading a normal and healthy life.
Forcing people to act against their God-given sexual orientation will lead to disordered lives. Allowing people to act in accordance with their God-given sexual orientation leads to reconciliation.
While deeming the marginalization of LGBT persons as unjustified mentioning that Jesus did not speak directly regarding homosexuality the Toledo church recognizes that the Church today continues to be divided over interpretation of Scripture related to homosexuality.
Just two months ago, 33 retired United Methodist bishops urged the denomination to remove its ban on homosexual clergy, prolonging the undying debate within the church body.
CUMC hopes to unify believers by focusing more on things that [they] agree on, such as kindness, justice, and humility, instead of contributing to hate and discrimination, which they believe leads not to reconciliation, but to self-destructive practices within the LGBT community.
Holding people responsible for matters in which they have no control is irrational and immoral, the church declares. We believe that both those within and without the Church are hungry for dialogue about homosexuality that reflects compassion and humility rather than intolerance and strife.
Buchanan contends that CUMCs message tells people that the only option they have is a gay identity.
But people need to understand that thousands of men and women have found there is another way and have found freedom from homosexuality through the power of Christ, he says.
Even if there was conclusive evidence supporting the theory that people were born this way, Buchanan stresses that Christians were called to be born again.
While we may not choose our desires, we do have the ability and responsibility to choose whether or not we act on those desires. Our goal should be living a life that is congruent with Scripture, he says.
Genesis describes the fall of man and the permanent effects that sin has on us spiritually, mentally, and physically. Just because something may be inherent does not mean it was intended.
Despite the outcry of many from the Christian community against CUMCs campaign, Barnard continues to proclaim that homosexuality is a gift and has people come and remain just as they are.
Working to accept persons who are gay into the full life of the Church, CUMC is a founding member of the Reconciling Ministries Network, which is the United Methodist movement for gay equality in the denomination.
Two of the volunteer staff members at their church, including the music director and lead team chair, live with their partners and have served the church for over seven years.
Grieved over the misinterpretation of Scripture and false teaching that is being promoted by CUMC and many other churches like them, Buchanan encourages churches to deliver the message of Christ with love and grace, but also with accuracy and uncompromised truth.
We must always remember that authentic love is built upon a foundation of grace and truth.
You’ve made a good point. Thank you.
Absolutely! Well said.
Also, Jesus was teaching the “spirit” of the law over the “letter” of the law. Big difference - HUGE difference.
I grew up UMC. Left for the same reason.
Bible? What’s that?
Maybe the 10 best DRESSed would be easier to reach concensus on?
Calvin was married and lost two children in infancy. His letters about the death of his wife are heart-breaking.
There is NO ONE Rome despises as much as John Calvin. He had their number 500 years ago and he tore their doctrines of men to shreds by the evidence of Scripture.
As Jesus said, some men cannot stand the truth because their deeds are evil.
This is from a protestant historian:
“The corroborated evidence, from both Protestants and Catholics, was that Calvin was found guilty of sodomy.”
http://sites.google.com/site/standfordrives/dcms-research/1534-conviction
How true. Lies are a standard thing with the Roman Catholic Cult though; I'm honestly surprised it took this long before they started the outright fabrications.
Must be projection due to having to account for homosexual popes. How exactly does that jibe with tradition, I wonder?
Hoss
Interesting
the republic of Geneva had sent him to Noyon, with orders to make an exact inquiry into Calvin's life and character; and that he found Calvin had been convicted of sodomy; but that at the bishop's request, the punishment by fire was commuted into that of being branded with the Flower-de-luceBut, why bother with the actions of Calvin? He's been supersedeed in the eyes of DrEck, Rn,Gamecoc and Alex's group by Machen, their enlightened Profit.
The corroborated evidence, from both Protestants and Catholics, was that Calvin was found guilty of sodomy. This does not prove it is true. Yet, it is the only concrete evidence available to explain the imprisonment of Calvin in 1534.
Just as they consider that Calvin superseeded Augustine, Machen supersedes Calvin hence their readings each week take a few excerpts from the Pauline Epistles and lot of readings of Mack daddy.
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all that is, seen and unseen.
So far, the OPC is on track.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Well, not really; they think of Jesus as a lesser God than the Father. The OPC says that:
Jesus is God's doorway through the wall. God appointed his Son to be the substitute for those whom he would save. Jesus loved the Father with every fiber of his being. He obeyed the Father's holy will completely. He died on Calvary's cross as the atoning sacrifice, bearing all the sins of his people. He rose again from the dead and was exalted to the place of glory at the Father's side.
For the OPC, Jesus is a lesser or messenger god to God the Father, much like Mercury was the messenger of Jupiter in the Roman Pantheon of gods. This is not Christian.
Christ is, in reality, the one true worshiper.[5] Our worship is a participation in his. Further, our worship in Christ is by the Holy Spirit.
Here, the OPC says that Christ worships God the Father, and the Holy Spirit worships Christ. Not Trinitarian, but polytheist.
"The Son of Man"
Jesus affirms that he is "the Son of Man." This was his favorite self-designation. The Gospels mention his calling himself the Son of Man some eighty times. William White, Jr., explains that this title reflects Daniel 7:13, where the "Son of Man" is one to whom is given universal and eternal authority, glory, and sovereign dominion. He is one from among men to whom is given divine prerogatives. Since only God can receive such prerogatives, the Son of Man is a God-man (Daniel 10:16). Thus, the Son of Man, Jesus, descended from heaven (John 3:13) and was dependent on God, as He had nowhere to lay His head (Matt. 8:20). He exercises an authoritative and redemptive mission (John 3:14). He is the universal Lord (Matt. 28:18; cf. Dan. 7:13-14) and has total responsibility and authority for judging the world (Matt. 13:41-42; 19:28). (Theological and Grammatical Phrasebook of the Bible, p. 102 [Moody Press, 1984]. Cf. Geerhardus Vos, The Self-Disclosure of Jesus [Eerdmans, 1954].)
So when Jesus calls himself the Son of Man, he does much more than identify himself as having a human nature. He reveals himself as God incarnated as the Last Adam, the true Man, the Man of God's right hand, the Messiah, the King, the Savior, Lord, and Judge! Compare Daniel 7:9-14 and Revelation 1:12-18. It's an amazing claim.
It sure is. It affirms that the OPC believes that Jesus is a lesser God - is totally dependent upon God and therefore is not the God of Christianity, but a messenger or harbinger, much like John the Baptist was for Jesus.
The OPC reveal themselves as extreme adoptionists who take it to the next step and leave Christianity for polytheism
I know that Papists have a hard time with the Inspired Word of God, but try to focus on what God has told us, not man’s tradition:
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
Acts 5:31 God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
Acts 2:33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing.
I don’t know, some time ago I would have also dismissed the UMC the way you do, but I would like to know from some conservatives still in the Methodists what they think
I will dispute and disagree with them, but they are still my Christian brothers and sisters, however, I do not consider brethren any non-Christian group that denies Christ as Lord, God and Savior, part of the ONE triune God.
Now I ask if your group's beliefs are Christian.
It's very strange that some groups like yours don't reveal anything about it's basic beliefs but hides behind shouts and insults. I've seen the left do the same... Tell us, what does your group believe in?
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