Posted on 04/28/2011 5:55:29 AM PDT by ZGuy
Being gay is a gift from God, asserts one church in Ohio.
Thats the message that Central United Methodist Church is spreading throughout their community via a digital billboard, launched on Monday.
This simple statement, the church announced, is intended to be a gift to those who have experienced hurt and discrimination because of their real or perceived sexual orientation.
The Church seeks nothing less than the healing of the world, and Central UMC wants to offer words and acts of healing to those hurt and marginalized, the website states.
Jeff Buchanan, the director of Exodus Church Equipping & Student Ministries, agrees that the Church must display love and compassion for those in the LGBT community. But he opposes the message that CUMC is sending through their Being Gay is a Gift from God campaign.
Why would God bestow this gift only to condemn it throughout the Bible? This would seemingly contradict His character as a God who is loving and just.
The Toledo churchs controversial billboard ad is directly connected to a long month-long sermon series by its new pastor, Bill Barnard. The church is hoping that the ad will move the public towards tolerance, reported ABC 13, and not perpetuate anti-gay attitudes and behaviors, which were harming the LGBT community.
The purposes of their recently launched campaign are threefold: to offer welcome to all persons who are gay; to challenge the larger Church to fully accept persons who are gay into the life of the Church; and to call on all people to bring all the gifts of who they are to God.
By welcoming and living in community with faithful Christians who happen to be gay, we have come to understand that being gay is part of who God made them to be, CUMC proclaims on their site. And by gay Christians bringing all that they are to God, the body of Christ has been strengthened.
In fact, we would experience the body of Christ as incomplete without LGBT persons.
Barnard told ABC, We really believe that being gay is a gift from God, and its not anything that anyone has to apologize for or be ashamed about. So thats how [the campaign] came to be.
Believing sexuality to be a good gift from God or as they declared yet another way in Gods infinite diversity CUMC defines sin as denying who God created them to be.
The overwhelming scientific evidence is that people are born with their sexual orientation, that it is not a choice, the church contends. Fully accepting ones sexual orientation and identity is key to leading a normal and healthy life.
Forcing people to act against their God-given sexual orientation will lead to disordered lives. Allowing people to act in accordance with their God-given sexual orientation leads to reconciliation.
While deeming the marginalization of LGBT persons as unjustified mentioning that Jesus did not speak directly regarding homosexuality the Toledo church recognizes that the Church today continues to be divided over interpretation of Scripture related to homosexuality.
Just two months ago, 33 retired United Methodist bishops urged the denomination to remove its ban on homosexual clergy, prolonging the undying debate within the church body.
CUMC hopes to unify believers by focusing more on things that [they] agree on, such as kindness, justice, and humility, instead of contributing to hate and discrimination, which they believe leads not to reconciliation, but to self-destructive practices within the LGBT community.
Holding people responsible for matters in which they have no control is irrational and immoral, the church declares. We believe that both those within and without the Church are hungry for dialogue about homosexuality that reflects compassion and humility rather than intolerance and strife.
Buchanan contends that CUMCs message tells people that the only option they have is a gay identity.
But people need to understand that thousands of men and women have found there is another way and have found freedom from homosexuality through the power of Christ, he says.
Even if there was conclusive evidence supporting the theory that people were born this way, Buchanan stresses that Christians were called to be born again.
While we may not choose our desires, we do have the ability and responsibility to choose whether or not we act on those desires. Our goal should be living a life that is congruent with Scripture, he says.
Genesis describes the fall of man and the permanent effects that sin has on us spiritually, mentally, and physically. Just because something may be inherent does not mean it was intended.
Despite the outcry of many from the Christian community against CUMCs campaign, Barnard continues to proclaim that homosexuality is a gift and has people come and remain just as they are.
Working to accept persons who are gay into the full life of the Church, CUMC is a founding member of the Reconciling Ministries Network, which is the United Methodist movement for gay equality in the denomination.
Two of the volunteer staff members at their church, including the music director and lead team chair, live with their partners and have served the church for over seven years.
Grieved over the misinterpretation of Scripture and false teaching that is being promoted by CUMC and many other churches like them, Buchanan encourages churches to deliver the message of Christ with love and grace, but also with accuracy and uncompromised truth.
We must always remember that authentic love is built upon a foundation of grace and truth.
So nice of you to help God with what he means’...just keep this to argue your point during the judgement
God: “Whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her hath already committed adultery with her in his heart.
The only plausible meaning: “A man who actually looks at a woman in order to lust after her has committed adultery.”
Your pathetic sect’s perversions have you trapped! You have no clue what the Word of God means.
I do not know if you are a man..but men testify that if a woman in a bikini walks by them they have sexual thoughts.. they were not LOOKING for that thought ..it is just there..
Here in Maryland it is against the law to discriminate in housing and employment for sexual orientation, but sexual orientation is not defined in the law.
“Sexual Orientation” has never been clearly defined to me, other than perhaps the acts one has committed, but I don’t know of any special tests, other than perhaps committing the act with someone or possibly numerous people, as the case often is, is some sort of proof. I don’t think even the gays know for sure who is truly homosexual amongst their own ranks.
“I do not know if you are a man..but men testify that if a woman in a bikini walks by them they have sexual thoughts.. they were not LOOKING for that thought ..it is just there..”
Yes, but the man also does not have to continue to feed his lusts afterwards as well. I am one, so I can tell you that much.
Exactly. I never really thought about it until I read it at a conservative website many years ago.
So it is only a sin if you go hunting to find a woman to lust after??
Would you say that one would have to desire to kill someone to have God declare you a murderer ?
Mat 5:22 But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire.
Your 107 cites a line from Eepsy’s post 103
(here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711746/posts?page=103#103), but is addressed to me.
Perhaps you meant to ask her?
The difference between lookin’ and lustin’ is thinkin’. It’s OK to appreciate but not anticipate or participate.
” Coalition for Reproductive Choice?)”
Cute.....How about
” Coalition for Homicidal Choice “
C’est toujours la meme chose.
On second thought, mayve the word “Carnage” is in there somewhere...
Countering with Scripture.
What a novel concept.
Reading and comprehending scripture: even moreso.
You make some good points, though I have to wonder (as a non-Methodist) how effective UMC authority really is if it allows this “church” to stay in business, as it were.
But on the broader question of orientation and inclination, one could argue that the whole point of ethics, especially sexual ethics, is to process and channel human (i.e. fallen) desires in appropriate ways. On a very basic level, the Biblical model of marriage acknowledges and celebrates our desires for sex and romance, while still insisting that there is only one way to express those desires legitimately: in a monogamous, heterosexual marriage. So, I’m wary of approaching homosexuality as any sort of inherent orientation, instead of treating it (as the Bible does) as a clearly disordered perversion of legitimate sexual desire. The question should not be, as many liberal churches have claimed, how to live Christianly as a homosexual, but rather how to deny the lie that living Christianly can even admit the legitimacy of homosexual desire.
It's the continual feeding that crosses the line. Even having the initial thought is not lust. It can be nothing more than a thought planted by the devil.
That's what makes temptation so hard. It's that you get blindsided by it.
Psalm 19:12-13
Who can discern his errors? Declare me innocent from hidden faults.
Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me!
Then I shall be blameless, and innocent of great transgression.
Jesus taught us a great lesson when tempted in the wilderness on hos to deal with temptation. It shows the value of knowing, REALLY knowing Scripture.
She didn’t say that and from what I know of her, she doesn’t believe that either.
It was a charge leveled by someone with an agenda.
But not you. I didn’t mean to imply that. I just realized that that could have been read wrong.
I should have included charge *initially* leveled.
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