Man, that Jerry Springer sure gets around.
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Posted on 04/27/2011 9:40:19 AM PDT by Bokababe
The Texas libertarian is widely seen as a longshot candidate for the GOP's 2012 presidential nomination. So why is he preparing for another White House campaign?....
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That definitely is a real question.
L Ron Paul - Can’t Win. Period. Exclamation Point. Without question. End of Story. Deader than a Doornail.
As I said, Ron Paul is my congressman, I have voted to send him back to Congress many times. But I would rather have a conservative with executive experience as President. I wonder whatever happened to conservatives wanting to follow our Constitution? Paul is very good on following the Constitution which is why this conservative keeps sending him back to Congress.
Man, that Jerry Springer sure gets around.
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When did that happen?
A “no-lose” position? Wrong. He’s not going to win...ever. His candidacy just takes votes away and gives them to Obama. But Libertarians never understand that. It’s pure ego for him. Vegas won’t give odds on this.
All true. Good post!
This is a board for discussion, so while you may disagree with a poster, they do have every right to post.
Paul does have some good ideas, but then goes off the left cliff. He is dangerous for our troops and America because he doesn’t understand foreign policy, for one thing. Not all veterans are authorities. I’m a vet too. Paul wants to privatize our military by issueing Letter of Marque, a practice that hasn’t been done since the 1800s.
Paul is a spoiler.
1. I was not a student at City College of New York in the 1930s as were most of them (Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Irving Kristol, Gertrude Himmelfarb, etc.);
2. I happen to be Roman Catholic (see tagline) as most of them were not;
3. I have never been a socialist as most of them had been before communists like George McGovern took permanent control of the Demonratic Party in 1972, causing them to abandon socialism to join with the GOP in defense of Western Civilization;
4. Other actual neocons included Walt Whitman Rostow, Eugene Rostow, Sidney Hook, Daniel Patrick Moynihan on his best days, Daniel Bell, and Alexander Bickel. Brilliant people if not always perfectly wise. They make the paleos obvious as intellectual pipsqueaks which is the highest paleo calling;
5. I don't buy into ANY "nation building" whatsoever. Never have bought into it and never will. Our military and foreign budgets should be almost exclusively devoted to killing our enemies and wrecking their property. "Nation building" is a waste of our resources. If an enemy has been smashed by US military power, that enemy should bear the expense of rebuilding right after reimbursing the US for each and every nickel spent on the effort. When that becomes our inflexible policy, you will be amazed at how seldom we will have to use military force. Our enemies may not love us but they WILL fear us and act accordingly or they will die.
Machiavelli was right and he was no "neocon." Your use of that term is interesting in that the term was invented by the left to attack the actual "neocons" described above because they defected to become substantially conservative particularly retaining and building upon manhood in foreign policy and the use of the military for purposes of Western Civilization. As the actual "neocons" died off, the term was revived by the eccentric platoon of "paleocons" at a Mont Pelerin Society meeting in the mid-1980s when, in utter frustration, they realized that they were regarded by the Reagan Administration as the "funny uncles and aunties" of the self-imagined right and would, mostly, NEVER be credentialed by Ronaldus Maximus and his administration. Normal conservatives wanted nothing to do with them because they were isolationist obsessives with a real weakness for "blood and soil" ideas reminiscent of Central Europe in the early to mid-20th century. History has rendered such truly embarassing heresies and errors as beyond the pale of repectable society. AND, of course, the paleos developed a mythology that cowardly isolationism was somehow related to conservatism in some mythical past. They like to juxtapose "non-interventionism" (indifferentist cowardice in common parlance) against what they call "globalism" or "internationalism" whose hero was supposed to be and may have been Woodrow Wilson. Real conservatives had no use for Wilson or his League of Nations or FDR or his United Nations and still do not. The actual dichotomy is between INTERVENTIONISM (when, where and on whatever terms we choose as a nation) and paleo-ostrichism or "noninterventionism" which prefers to hide its head in the sand until the baaaaaad men go away after which they will be eager to sell the bad guys the rope (trade and profit uber alles as it were) with which we shall all be hanged if Ron Paul's paleoism were to prevail.
Once the term "neocon" was revived by the paleos in their pathetic attempt to pose as conservatives without giving up their eccentric and decidedly anticonservative notions and "principles," the Nation and the New Republic and their leftist ilk generally were eager to join the paleos in an attempt at political identity theft by the paleos and bleat the term "neocon" in every writing attacking conservatives. They desperately need to help create a new type of RINO to divide the right (as they imagine). The problem with their theory is that the paleos are not legitimately of the right. They are more like the Mugwumps of the 1870s and 1880s with their mugs (economic conservatism of a sort and libertoonianism) on one side of the fence and their wumps (foreign policy of George McGovern type cowards and support for Congressional ad POTUS federal "nonintervention" with the SCOTUS policies in favor of abortion and sexual perversion) on the other side. They are neither fish nor fowl.
One need not at all favor "nation building" to believe in the crisp and efficient use of military force as regularly as desired.
The money squandered on the Marshall Plan would have been far more wisely "invested" in using Patton and MacArthur and the remnants of the German and Japanese militaries (as the spearhead) to wage a two-front war against Stalin as soon as Hitler and Tojo were defeated. There would have been no more Soviet Union, no Red China, no North Korea and no North Vietnam. Stalin, Mao, Chou en Lai, the North Korean pipsqueaks and Uncle Ho: all incinerated and little warfare necessary. Peace through strength! When the paleopipsqueak gets his paleopatoot kicked into the next galaxy by primary voters as it was in 2008, how will that work for you?
MtB: Ron Paul: Can’t be nominated (thank God!); can’t win (thank God!); is lucky not to be hauled off to the looney bin where he belongs.
Then paleoPaulie poses for holy pictures solemnly affirming that he is very pro-life (he just can't DO anything about it, you see) and telling us how he has delivered thousands of newborns as an OB-GYN (so has Dr. Bingham, the Planned Barrenhood killer at Norwich, CT and many others nationally like him. So what?).
This is not unlike el run Paulie opposing earmarks at press conferences while stuffing appropriations bills with earmarks for his district and voting no on the main bill while his colleagues deliver the votes that engorge Paulie's constituents with federal pork. Cue another solemn press conference wherein the surrenderman cluck, clucks that Congress is wasting money again but HE voted NO (on final passage, that is)!
Why, shucks, sir. Thank you!
The Paulestinians always hide behind the Constitution to excuse their unwillingness to take a stand. A prime example is the issue of abortion and their call to allow the states to decide the its legality.
If you look at the big picture it is easy to see that Europe (including Russia) has much more to fear from the rise of Islam then the USA. A US withdrawal would force Europe and Russia to address their Islamic problem. But "Oh No" we have to go broke carrying their water. And you think Ron Paul is crazy? Too funny.
As I recall Europe did a pretty good job containing the spread of Islam 1,000 years ago, maybe that have it in them to contain Islam again? And if the Europeans get serious then I would consider helping out. But right now we are broke and doing nobody any good. Time to rethink whatever the plan was in the first place. It is not working and we can't afford it.
What would you and your losertarian candidate know about conservatism? Keep pushing it, and you will see a bright flash of light and smell ozone.
Nice plan, stab our allies Russia and China in the back and then nuke the hell out of them. I never have anything nice to say about Truman, order then he was honest, but really. Back stab and nuke allies? You can’t be serious.
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