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Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!
The Post & Email ^ | 04/12/2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/12/2011 12:59:48 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: circlecity

The Obama law.
Since the king has no long form birth certificate - well, only a Kenyan one, nobody needs one!


181 posted on 04/13/2011 6:49:51 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: djf
I seem to remember seeing my original with my footprint many years ago, and I think it measured about 8 1/2 inches wide and 6 1/2 inches tall.

The one with the footprint is a hospital certificate.

I tried to use that (not knowing) when I got a passport in 1998.

I had to get my original BC for the passport. Mine's from Florida and it's a full page with a raised state seal on it.

182 posted on 04/13/2011 6:58:57 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
LOL.... Just for fun I googled, "Getting a passport in VA". I went to http://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/virginia-passport-acceptance-facility-list.html and then to the link for obtaining a child's passport on the left side of the page. Here's what it says:

Need a child's passport? Get ready to have your patience tested. Acquiring or renewing a child's passport is no walk in the park. Over the past few years, new requirements have been added in an effort to combat child abduction and trafficking. The new requirements mean more work for parents to acquire passports for their children. While guaranteeing the safety of children may be a worthy objective, it still means more work. To make it through the process without a hitch, start early and pay attention to details.

The first thing you need to know is that your child must apply in person with both parents or guardians (see special cases below). There is no renewal of a passport by mail for minors so children under 16 whose current passports have expired or are near the expiration date must apply for a new passport using Form DS-11. The form should be completed but it should not be signed until a passport agent requests that it be done. You also need to provide parental consent for any child under age 16. Due to the different familial situations that can exist, you can refer to the table below to determine what documents are acceptable in order to obtain a passport for your child.

Is your child under age 16? If so, you need to provide both proof of citizenship and proof of relationship.

Proof of citizenship

Evidence of United States citizenship can be established with an original or certified copy of a birth certificate. Certified copies can be acquired at the registrar's office of the state where your child was born. Be sure to get the "long form". Other documents that serve to prove citizenship are a previous fully valid U.S. passport, a Report of Birth Abroad, a Certification of Birth Abroad or a Certificate of Citizenship or Naturalization. http://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/child-passport.html#parentalconsent

183 posted on 04/13/2011 7:05:33 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Coyotehockey
We had no problems getting him a passport.

With a computer-generated COLB? Really?

I had to provide an original long form BC with the raised state seal on it before I got mine.

184 posted on 04/13/2011 7:15:32 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: greatplains
What is ironic is that there are a lot of people like me who would never have shown interest in this topic if there weren’t such bizarre antics on the other side.

Same here - I originally thought it was cuckoo. I still think whatever's on that birth certificate that he doesn't want people to see is embarrassing but not disqualifying, or Hillary! would have found a way to get it out there before the convention, let alone the election.

185 posted on 04/13/2011 10:33:36 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Coyotehockey
When my son was born in the Portsmouth Va Navy hospital in 1999 all we got from the state of Virginia was a computer generated COLB.

When I asked the hospital about it, they said that everything is electronic now - there are never any paper copies. All the information is collected electronically and sent electronically to the state.

We had no problems getting him a passport.

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Could you show us what a Virginia COLB looks like?

Or, could you tell us what items are on the COLB?

Do you have a long form birth certificate with the doctor's name and the name of the hospital on it?

If you asked Virginia for a long form birth certificate, would Virginia give you one? Thanks.

186 posted on 04/13/2011 10:59:03 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Smokeyblue

Ancestry.Com should file a lawsuit!!!!


187 posted on 04/13/2011 1:52:06 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: edge919; rolling_stone; butterdezillion; LucyT; Red Steel; All
This is a follow up to my post #155 on this thread
(ordering my BC from HI)

I finally got hold of someone named Christy at the Vital Records Dept. in Hawaii.

I asked about my order online of my BC and what certificate I would actually receive. Long or short form.

She told me I would be receiving the short form COLB and they no longer gave out the “Certificate of Birth”.

I asked her at least 2 times when they stopped supplying the long form and she stated it was a new policy implemented in May of 2001.

I told her I have heard of people making requests for their long form and have received it. She said she didn't think that was possible except in cases of having a very weird name. (names with hyphens and weird non-American letters.)
Then and only then will they actually make a photo copy of the original and then send it.

But for almost everyone, they will only send out the COLB.

This means to me that they DO HAVE ORIGINALS ON FILE and could if need be get a photo copy.

I kept pushing the point that I really would like the long form so I could get for instance, a passport.

She finally gave me the phone number for a Dr. Alvin Onaka (spelling?).

I had to leave a message for him to call me back. Will call again tomorrow if I haven't received a call.

So, I guess I will be receiving a COLB . But with this I will compare and contrast it with what is on my original “Certificate of Birth”.

I don't know how to post the images of each on this site, but when I receive it, I will ask for help and post the long and short form, for everyone to see the comparison.

188 posted on 04/13/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: Aurorales
She finally gave me the phone number for a Dr. Alvin Onaka (spelling?).

It seems they refer people (everyone?) who wants a long form birth to Onaka. Keep insisting that you want it. He will give it up in the end. You could drop a hint that you're willing to take Hawaii to court for your own birth certificate. They can only delay - push him.

189 posted on 04/13/2011 2:45:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Will do. If he doesn’t call me back today, I will start calling him again tomorrow.

I’ll push the issue.


190 posted on 04/13/2011 3:05:41 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: Red Steel

If of course he does in the end give me my long form, this means that Barry could get his as well.

(but of course we already know that)


191 posted on 04/13/2011 3:07:23 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: Aurorales

Bump,,, to just keep watchin’ this thread.


192 posted on 04/13/2011 3:11:08 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Smokeyblue

Hawaii has a LOT of ‘splainin to do!!!


193 posted on 04/13/2011 3:14:02 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Aurorales

Cool.


194 posted on 04/13/2011 3:14:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>He was born Steve Dunham. He changed his name when he converted to Islam. No more complicated than that.

It is confirmed that he was born Steve Dunham, it doesn’t take long to connect those dots.<

Where has it been confirmed he was born Steve Dunham?
I haven’t seen anything about it.


195 posted on 04/13/2011 4:33:09 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
Where has it been confirmed he was born Steve Dunham?

Release of the long-form birth certificate would confirm it, that's why he can't let us see it.

We know it exists because the governor of Hawaii, among others, claims to have seen it.

196 posted on 04/13/2011 4:35:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: indylindy

>Obama needs to show his birth certificate and Hawaii needs to cut the crap.

In this instance, I am sure a long form could be made available.<

You can bet that if the POTUS wanted his long form birth certificate Hawaii could dig it up in a New York Minute.
But since he doesn’t want it seen by anyone, they are going to great lengths to hide it and make it unavailable.

They have someone by the short hairs in Hawaii


197 posted on 04/13/2011 4:35:53 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

>All it takes is for some other State(s) to reject the COLB as the acceptable logn form BC form from HI residents (if they move elsewhere).

So HI residents will become ‘illegal’ in other states, and see how that goes.<

I did back ground investigations for my agency when they came through. A COLB would NEVER be accepted as any proof of anything. They woudl be rejected as a candidate if that was all that they could provide, even if everything else looked good.
I suspect that a candidate would be able to go back after Hawaii for not making these forms available as they would hinder them from being eligible for a job.


198 posted on 04/13/2011 4:40:27 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Johnny B.

>What do you think they’ve been doing for the last two years? It takes a while to destroy that many documents without anyone noticing!<

they just had to destroy “the WON” .. or “misplace” it


199 posted on 04/13/2011 4:42:40 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Wow,This sounds like watergate all over again.


200 posted on 04/13/2011 4:44:05 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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