Posted on 03/29/2011 7:55:42 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
In whose interest is it for the usurper to be found out and removed from office in soon enough fashion for Joe Biden to become acting President? What is it that the democrats and liberals who have kept this subject alive lately think so important that they have stirred the pot? I think they realize that its over for their boy wonder and that with his removal, along goes those two Supreme Court appointments. The Republicans seem to have been biding their time in going after the issue so that when they finally would, the dems would not have enough time to save those two spots with fresh appointees BEFORE the wrath of the voters installed a new Republican President.
I think Donald Trump is acting on behalf of the Democrats interest as he is challenging Obama to produce his birth certificate. They realize how much is at stake on the Supreme Court alone and are trying their best to get rid of their impotent fraud so as to allow time to save those appointments for liberal justices. Trump is a Trojan horse in this case. Beware.
Nevertheless, somebody has to poke the rest of the Republican field with a stick on the BC issue, and Trump has done that well.
I remain though a Palin supporter, I just wish she would speak out like Trump has on the BC. There is no reason why he cannot be hit on this and on policy as well.
As for Trump as President, I wrote a critique of him some time ago.
And yet born on American soil BarryO is not afforded the same benefit of the doubt.
If all they can salvage from this destruction is those two seats, they certainly won't be able to do so AFTER the 2012 elections. They can muscle them through with their present slim Senate majority but they have to get the usurper out of the way first so that Biden can do his thing.
How would the supremes be cowards if the laughed an asinine case right out of the courtroom?
You can always count on a Liberal GOPer Obama Supporter making up some excuse to not pursue the Obama Eligibility issue
The real Trojan Horse are the fraud-cons like the thread-starter....who keep using excuses to not challenge Obama Eligibility. Obama would have been gone from office if it was not for the Obama-Loving Liberal wing of the GOP who refuse to adress the Birther issue...and go attack Brthers
By now, if you still are not questioning Obama’s Eligibility...you are an Obama Supporter
Wow, I think some of you guys are WAY over thinking this. We don’t know anything about what the outcome would be with the supreme court justices or Obamacare or anything else he has done if he is found ineligible.
We must SUPPORT trump in this effort. He is not working for the dems, that’s just silly.
Trump is pointing out too many things that will make faking a long form birth certificate impossible. For example, he pointed out that no doctor or nurse has come forward and stated they delivered the baby. So to fake the birth cert now they have to not only come up doctors names and such but they also have to be in the scheme or the fakers will have to match up a doctor that is now dead.
Trump has also mentioned people remember him from kindergarten. Where are the people that remember Obama?
It’s these statements that are going to get Obama because they can’t be faked or fixed. Trump is making it clear that if you just use a little common sense you don’t have to see his birth certificate to know the man is a usurper. He can’t show his birth cert because it says “Republic of Kenya” at the top.
Trump would not be pointing out all these blank spaces if he was working for the dems.
TRUMP IS BEING A PATRIOT!!!
GO DONALD!
The tape doesn’t exist because it never happened. Like most of the “proof” that the birthers have come up with, it’s completely made up. Senatorial debates don’t happen in a vacuum, especially those that have occured very recently. If that exchange had happened, media outlets would have reported on it then, they’d have it in their archives, and it would have been all over YouTube in 2007.
If Obama was ever lawfully certified as the electoral winner, then the 20th Amendment would prescribe Cheney to “act as President until a President shall have qualified.”
The statute for certifying an electoral winner was not obeyed, since Dick Cheney did not ask for objections to the state electoral votes as required by statute. I believe Dick Cheney refused to ask for objections specifically so there could be a case raised that Obama was never lawfully certified as the electoral winner and we thus never even HAD a lawful “President elect”. If that is true, then we are stuck at Dec 2009.
But no judge will take an eligibility case. It’s evident that somebody threatened Judge Surick, who received his “decision” (that Berg lacked standing) by fax from somebody else; the date/time stamp from the original fax remained on every page when he forwarded the decision to Berg. If Soros’ goons threatened Surick and got away with it, they must have had something really bad to threaten him with. And there’s no reason to believe they wouldn’t have done the same to any judge, including SCOTUS justices. Which would explain why a conservative justice who takes the Constitution seriously (Thomas) would still say they were “evading” the eligibility issue.
The only people who have the power to find that Obama was not eligible is the judiciary, and I believe they have been threatened (possibly with the threat that Soros and his communist-Islamist allies would make another run on the bank that would destroy the entire western world). There is no legal avenue for this mess to be resolved, given that our judiciary and law enforcement have been taken hostage. At this point the only things that will make any difference, IMHO, are
1) state eligibility bills which grant standing to registered voters to challenge eligibility in court and specifically allow discovery of vital birth and citizenship records, including embedded transaction logs which would reveal whether the records are genuine; and
2) public outcry for a CRIMINAL investigation of the cover-up of Obama’s ineligibility - either as a result of what is discovered because of 1, above, or as a result of some other way for public awareness and outcry to be generated. And that’s where Trump could come in.
I think Trump loves his money, loves capitalism, and is sick of the whole system being trashed. I don’t know if his past campaign contributions were him hedging his bets by supporting people from both political parties (as lobbyists do) or if he was one of the “useful idiots” that the KGB talks about - who swallow the rose-colored lies of communism and who are the hardest fighters against communism when they finally see it for what it really is.
I don’t know Trump’s motives. It’s always good to be aware of all possible motives. I do get the feeling from the way he immediately spoke out against the media, for the way they demonize anybody who has any questions, that he is disgusted by what has been going on with this issue as well as a bunch of other things. So I really wonder if he is one of the “useful idiots” who has just seen the light - which is the reason the communists always line up and execute the “useful idiots” once the revolution is successful, to prevent them from becoming disillusioned and fighting the hardest of anybody. I’m wondering if Trump has already reached that point and is thus their worst nightmare right now.
I guess time will tell.
I agree with this. It does further the point I am trying to make that the dems themselves are trying to rid themselves of their albatross so as to have time to save those two Supreme Court seats. Certainly, Trump's efforts help their cause in addressing this issue sooner on terms the dems set rather than later on terms a that a potential republican majority sets.
"Trump would not be pointing out all these blank spaces if he was working for the dems.
The dems can only save those two seats by having Obama's usurpation acknowledged and Biden legally sworn in as President so anything that goes for the jugular is in their best interest while they hold a Senate majority. So, "if" this is what they are in fact attempting, and using him as their vehicle, yes he would.
I believe the ploy/deception goes to more people. The cabal as I believe is out for much, much more than a POTUSA and resources. This certainly includes those you mentioned but extends to others like in the United Nations, the world, especially Europe, banking powers like the Rothchilds from whom Soros got his startup hedge funds. The entire scenario smells of intent to bring down this Nation from being exceptional.
I believe the ploy/deception goes to more people. The cabal as I believe is out for much, much more than a POTUSA and resources. This certainly includes those you mentioned but extends to others like in the United Nations, the world, especially Europe, banking powers like the Rothchilds from whom Soros got his startup hedge funds. The entire scenario smells of intent to bring down this Nation from being exceptional.
We’ve all seen the media ignore too many really important things (like Abercrombie’s open statements published in the Star Advertiser that what Obama has as record of his birth is in the State Archives rather than the Vital Records Office and isn’t likely to convince doubters that he was born in Hawaii) and too many things disappear before our very eyes to actually buy the argument you’re making.
It’s a nice hypothetical argument and might work if we were dealing with an honest media, but we’re actually dealing with a media that received a message that their kids could be killed (or cousins kidnapped...) if they or any of their on-air guests spoke about the eligibility issue.
When the only rule is the rule of the mafia, the standard protocols don’t exist any more.
“The dems can only save those two seats by having Obama’s usurpation acknowledged and Biden legally sworn in as President so anything that goes for the jugular is in their best interest while they hold a Senate majority. So, “if” this is what they are in fact attempting, and using him as their vehicle, yes he would. “
I see what you are saying but I think if the dems themselves wanted him gone they could get it done a lot easier than having to involve a wild card like Trump. Pelosi or Reid could just make some off the cuff statement that Obama should show the cert just to clear the air. That’s all it would take. I also think Pelosi and Reid would in fact do this because it would clear them of any involvement with the Obama conspiracy, in which case I believe they both had a part.
Either way it’s important that we expose the truth and get rid of him. If we don’t, who will the next usurper be and what might he do with control of our nuclear arsenal?
With that thought I will wish all birther nay sayers a good night! lol
You do a good job illustrating that proving a negative is impossible.
That is why the burden of proof must be with the president to show that his claims of being eligible are based in FACT.
In the absence of facts, we are left only with speculation... which you can hardly blame anyone for.
The FACT that Obama has spent over 2 mil keeping ALL of his records hidden that would establish his legitimacy is FAR MORE revealing than some stupid birth certificate generator.
I have been debating this issue since it's inception on this forum. Not only have I challenged his eligibility, I've actually proven that the fact we don't know if he is eligible or not is in itself proof that he is a usurper. The Twentieth amendment, section Three REQUIRES that Congress appoint an interim President if the "President elect shall have failed to qualify". Congress has to know the answer to this question in order to fulfill their duties to name an interim President. If he qualified, we would know it to be the case. We don't know it do we?
More here.
Congress is Responsible For the Eligibility Fiasco
My suggested remedy at the state level is here.
Usurper Detection Legislation Should Be Passed Within Each State
Also, would you think that a record would have been kept of the procedures Dick Cheney used in the counting and certification of the 2004 election? Would you expect it to be written in the Congressional Record for that day, or the tape of that process to be available in C-SPAN archives?
Let me know if you are ever able to find that - to find out what procedures he followed for the parts of that day BESIDES the objection to the certification of Ohio’s electoral votes.
We can test your hypothesis using that situation. There are records for the 2000 election, and 2004 is more recent than that. Surely the C-SPAN tape exists somewhere, and according to your hypothesis it should be available. I double-dog dare you to find it, since it clearly should exist if there was an electoral vote certification in 2004 - according to your hypothesis.
While you’re at it, you might also see if there is archived video of the specific episode of a particular TV show in which the Egyptian ambassador said that Obama had told him he was and still is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda, according to Israeli sources. The claim was very specific, and anybody who wanted to disprove it could easily check the archived video and show that whole segment in question and show that the Egyptian ambassador never said that. But nobody has done that. Why not? According to your hypothesis, that video footage should be available somewhere. Will you find it, to test your hypothesis? If you intend to look for it, let me know and I will give you the specifics.
Oops. We would be stuck at Dec 2008, not 2009. Stuck without any electoral winner certified.
For the second time. How is it you've determined this? You made the statement. Back it up.
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