Posted on 03/15/2011 7:39:54 PM PDT by Mr. K
Fox news saying they left the plant
Paging Captain Obama
Paging Captain Obama
You have a call on line O - you have a call on line O
It’s your golf course saying you forgot to return their caddy
This event is not important enough to remain in breaking news. Must be time to go back to General/Chat and see if anybody has any funny youtube video links.
Not to alarm anyone - but this just crossed the wire
MAP 2.8 2011/03/16 03:15:33 38.779 -122.758 0.0 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
MAP 2.6 2011/03/16 02:04:50 40.152 -120.971 9.5 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
I sent it to some friends. It would be good to get the hysteria under control.
Northern California is waking up
This is just how is started over there. A couple of small quakes then bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger
Prob nothing but it did happen in the last ten minutes.
YEAH....I was thinking about Katrina in relation to the losses in Japan.....oh my....
Alot of the reactors in the USA were built in the 1970’s. I live within 5 miles of one. Wonder where the used fuel is stored there? Anyone know or know how to find out????
Well, since they were claiming to provide an information update and that their job is information I would expect them to be... informative.
Not so. The radionuclides generated as reaction products during power-generation fission are still decaying and producing heat on their own. If that heat is not removed, the temperature of the fuel rods will climb.
Were you not aware that some satellites have thermoelectric generators -- powered by the (non-fission) heat from decaying long half-life radionuclides?)
Zirconium (the cladding for the fuel-pellet rods) is pyrophoric in powder form, but oxidation-stable in solid form. However, when it reaches the molten state (@1852 oC) Zr becomes very chemically reactive. The combustion temperature is extremely high. (Zirconium powder is used in some high-temperature thermite mixtures.)
If the Zr cladding ignites, the possibility of damage to the MOx fuel pellets is significant.
So, depending on where things are in the half-life of the remaining radionuclides, things could heat up considerably -- even though chain-reaction fission can no longer occur.
Government said today there was nothing wrong with being prepared and going ahead and buying the pills
Then people panicked and went and bought the pills in California and then the government said - never mind.
Not funny, jackwagon. Abuse button hit.
I forgot the part about the tsunami. The Japanese reactors would probably have been OK with the earthquake alone. At what elevation are the California reactors? Anyway, I meant going forward in construction not current.
When the final death toll is known, the natural disasters will have likely killed tens of thousands. But if even one person dies from radiation expect the media to make that the real tragedy.
They they can heat up a few hundred degrees but then when it rains - which it will - that will help cool things down or when they get the stuck valve back open. No big deal then - water will flood it and they will cool down enough you could hold them in your hand.
Just will take a little time and patient. Really not a big deal according to the real experts.
I am sure the Japanese people are not happy with the U.S. Reporters. Dramatizing everything.
They seem to be on top of the situation as much as possible.
Sure some setbacks but nothing they haven’t been able to handle so far today.
Looks like targets are being met - slow process
Zero similarity to this decaying radionuclide scenario...
Exactly! That's the bullet they've been trying to dodge ever since the earthquake.
On which
The reported quakes in California?
They just happened and they are on the feed now
Otherwise - the rest of what is happening without all the drama attached.
OH and yes - the government told people to go out and buy iodine in CA today - then they took their remarks back.
Fact.
Almost literally true. The electronics in them are not rad hard.
All of this is true.
So is the fact that just by working in the plant, the plant workers will pick up an elevated dose of radiation.
If there’s nothing the workers can do at present, it makes sense to send them home, and have them recover from the exposure.
There is enough water, it's just that the stuff which needs the water is so radioactive nobody can stay long enough to pour much water *on* it.
And the less water, the hotter (temp-wise) it gets; and if it gets hot enough, it will (presumably) catch fire (dispersion), or melt through its holder and through the floor, until it hits groundwater (massive steam explosion and dispersion).
Full Disclosure: The last sentence is my educated layman's guesstimate of the possible bad next step...
Cheers!
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