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Tepco: Temperatures Rising At Fukushima Daini No.1, No.2 Reactors [Have "lost control" of pressure]
WSJ; Dow Jones Newswires ^ | March 11, 2011 | Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires

Posted on 03/11/2011 3:02:53 PM PST by americanophile

Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501.TO) said Saturday that the temperatures of its No.1 and No.2 reactors at its Fukushima Daini nuclear power station are rising, and it has lost control over pressure in the reactors.

Fukushima Daini station is the second nuclear power plant the company has in Fukushima prefecture in northeastern Japan, where the troubled Fukushima Daiichi plant is located.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: earthquake; japan; japanearthquake; nuclear; tsunami
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To: MPJackal
"And those 60 inch TV’s use less energy than a 20 inch of years gone by."

I don't believe that part to be technically accurate. Otherwise, I generally agree.

It's been the fear of nukes that won't let us build MODERN plants of new design and multiple levels of containment.

141 posted on 03/11/2011 6:42:55 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Marty62
pole shift

They did say this quake has caused a shift - The Recent one in Chile did also - as have others recently. Orlando's Airport, fr one, just had to reconfigure their GPS co ordinances for their runways so's planes coming in on instruments didn't land on the grass BESIDE the runway.

Looks like it's time for some more configuration.

142 posted on 03/11/2011 6:43:38 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: No Socialist

Coal plants emit more radioactivity into the environment than nuclear plants.

Ready to do without them?


143 posted on 03/11/2011 6:49:41 PM PST by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: Revel
"Sadly that makes me a hippie in the minds of many here."

Dude. I'm a hippie and an environmentalist.

But, I'm not a whacko Greepeacer like the commie watermelons.

You know, green on the outside, read on the inside.

That said, I'm a big believer in nukes.

144 posted on 03/11/2011 6:59:33 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner
Drudge is running the following headline with a reference to boot.

'HOURS' TO PREVENT NUKE MELTDOWN

145 posted on 03/11/2011 7:02:40 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Scythian; All
""Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago."

Folks, I'm not going to say it's going to happen.

I AM going to say that the quantity of material at risk here is far greater than Chernobyl.

146 posted on 03/11/2011 7:07:12 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Twinkie
Middle-aged scientists? Demonstrations? Please! Sounds like nothing would satisfy you.

The basic science and engineering principles of nuclear power have been taught in high schools for decades now. The technology is proven all over the world with over 500 reactors in applications on land, above and below the sea, even in space.

2012 will be the 70th anniversary of the first artificial reactor and your still playing the part of the handwringing luddite.

147 posted on 03/11/2011 7:27:25 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: WayneM

“No cause for concern. Hillary Clinton ordered some more coolant delivered to save the situation.

I read the AP report with my own eyes.”

Indeed. Only two problems with Hillary’s “plans”.

1. Hillary’s “very important coolant” is known to the rest of the world as “water”, which I believe, if not mistaken, they’ve got a tiny bit too much of right now anyway.

2. There was no “delivery” of “coolant” in the works anyway.

Bottom line is that Hillary Clinton is clueless idiot, a complete ignoramus, and has absolutely no idea in the world about what she is talking about. But then again, one could correctly say exactly the same thing about Obama and everyone he’s appointed to his administration. EVERYONE!


148 posted on 03/11/2011 7:31:17 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: Twinkie
“but did have questions about nuclear power plants. -”

Why are there never any questions about coal fired plants when coal mine accidents happen?

Why are there never any questions about coal fired plants when coal miners die of black lung?

Why are there never any questions about coal fired plants when people with weak respiratory systems die a bit sooner than normal? Because they have ingested small amounts of coal soot over a many year period?

etc, etc,,,

149 posted on 03/11/2011 7:35:46 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: bvw

“Don’t be so pessimistic. The original GE designers and engineers who made those MARK-n designs were very smart and very cautious. They really over-engineered. We shall all see that in in a situation at the extrema of worst-case (shot of a direct hit by a nuke bomb) the still fail-safe, nearly safe.”

That may be the case, but why in the world did Japanese planners allow nuke plants to be built within tsunami reach? Couldn’t they have at least sited the damn things 20 miles inland?


150 posted on 03/11/2011 7:36:29 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: americanophile

WHY can’t they simpy pull out the fuel rods???? Such a DUMB question about)the reaction.


151 posted on 03/11/2011 7:38:50 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: maine-iac7
The magnetic pole shift has nothing to do with earthquakes. The Orlando airport thing got a lot of press but was in fact routine. The pole was shifting just as fast a century ago as it is now.

http://www.physics.sfasu.edu/astro/img/northpoledrift.gif

152 posted on 03/11/2011 7:53:22 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: catnipman
That may be the case, but why in the world did Japanese planners allow nuke plants to be built within tsunami reach?

You have access to very cheap cooling. The Pacific Ocean. The Californian Nuclear Plants that I have seen were both located along the Pacific coastline.

153 posted on 03/11/2011 8:00:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: americanophile

China Syndrome....maybe we’ll find radiation in the noodles and dog food we buy from the Chinese ....really soon.


154 posted on 03/11/2011 8:04:29 PM PST by stboz
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To: justa-hairyape

“You have access to very cheap cooling. The Pacific Ocean. The Californian Nuclear Plants that I have seen were both located along the Pacific coastline. “

Well no doubt. But Japan has a several thousand year history of earthquakes and tsunamis. Guess cheap cooling was more important than history and prudence.


155 posted on 03/11/2011 8:22:42 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: 2harddrive

“WHY can’t they simpy pull out the fuel rods???? Such a DUMB question about)the reaction.”

You may be wondering, “Why can’t they just drop the control rods in the reactor if it starts to get out of control?”. The answer is that they can. The problem is that, even if the control rods are completely dropped in and the nuclear chain reaction stops, the reactor is still extremely hot and will not cool down unless coolant is put back in. The residual heat and the heat produced from the decay of the fission products are enough to drive the core’s temperature up even if the nuclear chain reaction stops.


156 posted on 03/11/2011 8:26:01 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: maine-iac7

Yeah I wonder what the GW/CC Fraudsters excuse is for this little development?

Some cow flatulence in Tx I guess.


157 posted on 03/11/2011 8:37:30 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: catnipman
Read another report that stated the Japanese were the absolute best in the world at nuclear accident prevention. My guess is that their public demanded no less considering their history. Most reactors will have just one set of backup diesel generators. In the Japanese case they actually had a set of 3 backup generators. This is the first case ever supposedly where all the backup generators failed. If this happened along the Kalifornian coast, we Kalifornians would all be glowing in the dark acting like Mad Max's right now !
158 posted on 03/11/2011 8:43:50 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
"In the Japanese case they actually had a set of 3 backup generators."

Yeah, well, if they don't pump in some cold water very soon by this time tomorrow you'll be reading about one of the world's great disasters.

159 posted on 03/11/2011 9:41:53 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

Bad news. A BBC tweet and the Huff Post just stated that Japanese sources claim a nuclear meltdown might be occurring right now at a reactor.


160 posted on 03/11/2011 9:47:51 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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