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Tepco: Temperatures Rising At Fukushima Daini No.1, No.2 Reactors [Have "lost control" of pressure]
WSJ; Dow Jones Newswires ^ | March 11, 2011 | Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires

Posted on 03/11/2011 3:02:53 PM PST by americanophile

Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501.TO) said Saturday that the temperatures of its No.1 and No.2 reactors at its Fukushima Daini nuclear power station are rising, and it has lost control over pressure in the reactors.

Fukushima Daini station is the second nuclear power plant the company has in Fukushima prefecture in northeastern Japan, where the troubled Fukushima Daiichi plant is located.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: earthquake; japan; japanearthquake; nuclear; tsunami
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To: EBH
The evacuation zone around the power plant has been increased to 10 km, or 6.2 mi.]

Can you imagine the logistics of evacuating a 12+ mile radius of such a people-dense society as Japan - and with all the destruction to deal with too?

And given the Japanese propensity to low-key things - this is looking bad.

121 posted on 03/11/2011 5:20:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: SeattleBruce

It is sicking how one gets attacked around here if they are not a neocon of some type. I don’t follow the norm just so that life will be easy. And I am not fond of things that are irrational. For instance I thought Global warming was a scam long before climategate. I saw the Rino neocons coming in the very beginning. Neocons don’t allow any thought that is different from theirs. They are just like the liberals. Decent is not tolerated. No matter what the facts. Name calling is how they try to win. I look at the benefits and risks of nuclear power. And I have decided that it is a bigger Risk than is worth wild.
Admittedly I have a spiritual side as well. And that does play into what I think. As I look not only to my own life, but at the life of those to come. But I try to do that rationally. Sadly that makes me a hippie in the minds of many here.


122 posted on 03/11/2011 5:21:06 PM PST by Revel
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To: MPJackal

That information is irrelevant as to how much power TV’s consume in running mode. Look at the watts rating. My brother just bought a plasma TV. It uses up to a max of 800 Watts on a bright scene. His 27 inch CRT uses 105 watts. Not hard to figure out what happened to his electric bill.


123 posted on 03/11/2011 5:26:08 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
Maybe it is we that need to adjust and live within our means. Do we really need 60 inch tv’s.

If you feel you are part of the problem...
don't let my derisive laughter...
prevent you from turning off your computer and selling it to pay down the deficit.

winning

124 posted on 03/11/2011 5:32:34 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: No Socialist

“As someone who was within 30 miles of Three Mile Island during the accident,”

And yet here you are all these years later, perfectly alive.

I have lived within the the 5 mile “ERPA” zone of a nuke plant for the last 38 years. Doesn’t bother me a bit. Build more. Hell, build ‘em in my back yard for all I care.


125 posted on 03/11/2011 5:34:14 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Revel

Could we talk about Japan, and not your television choices?


126 posted on 03/11/2011 5:34:24 PM PST by sissyjane (Did you plug the hole yet Daddy????)
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To: Gaffer
Well, at least it's better to be blown over thousands of miles of ocean before it starts coming down in pastures
127 posted on 03/11/2011 5:34:55 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: americanophile

Couric reported there was risk of nuclear release....just like three mile island...was there a release, or has the anti-nuke hysteria due to this crisis begun


128 posted on 03/11/2011 5:36:43 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: soycd

You are right about that. This sort of thing was what had the seventies and eighties “environmentalists” worried. - I never marched, but did have questions about nuclear power plants. -

Trouble was, back then, the nuclear industry sent out sexy-looking teeny bopper female “reps” who just pooh-poohed any questions about storage, etc. and condescended to us. (We had one of the “reps” in our family. She still doesn’t like me because I had questions at the time.)

If they’d have sent out middle aged scientists giving demonstrations explaining more about storage and answering questions respectfully, we’d probably have more nuclear power plants here now. (With this latest one in Japan, I’m still wary.)


129 posted on 03/11/2011 5:40:14 PM PST by Twinkie ( PEACE)
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To: JerseyHighlander
The Japanese government will say anything necessarty to placate the populace right now

Yes, they may. But in the meantime what they say may be just a simple truth.

130 posted on 03/11/2011 5:44:38 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: americanophile

Radiation levels inside a Japanese nuclear power plant have surged to 1,000 times their normal levels after today’s 8.9-magnitude earthquake knocked out power to a cooling system, and tsunami floods have hampered efforts to get it restored.

Meanwhile, heat-induced pressure built up inside the crippled reactor, prompting widespread evacuations within a 10 km radius and stoking fears of a potentially catastrophic radioactive event.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/japan-earthquake-nuclear-power-reactor-damaged-high-radiation/story?id=13114181


131 posted on 03/11/2011 5:51:10 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Nik Naym

“And yet here you are all these years later, perfectly alive.

I have lived within the the 5 mile “ERPA” zone of a nuke plant for the last 38 years. Doesn’t bother me a bit. Build more. Hell, build ‘em in my back yard for all I care.”

So the fact that no one died means that no one ever will and they aren’t a hazard?


132 posted on 03/11/2011 6:08:35 PM PST by No Socialist
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To: maine-iac7
"This sounds like it's getting away from them."

If they boil off all the water and can't get enough in, it could get very hot there.

But likely not a meltdown. Suppression rods are in and this is residual decay/heat which I believe only last about 10 days.

Is there a nuke engineer aboard this thread?

133 posted on 03/11/2011 6:11:53 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: MPJackal; Revel
REVEL Do we really need 60 inch tv’s.

How collectivist of you.

You SHOULD say: : Do I really need a 60 inch tv?"

Do your thing and respect others to make their own choices.

I suspicion this is probably an impossibility for a greenie socialist...

BTW, myself, I have 20 year old TV, which I have on a power strip along with the VCR etc..{with the power strip off when not using, and two other power strips with lamps and stuff linked and really off when off. I unplug my toaster and other appliances when not in use...etc. I cut my power bill by $30.

I discontinued satellite over 2 years ago and watch 'TV" online and seldom put the TV on.

But that's my personal choice - and nothing to do with being 'green.'

It has everything to do with wanting MY money in MY pocket. And that is MY prerogative. Dam*ed if I care if others do the same. Not MY business.

134 posted on 03/11/2011 6:15:35 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: EBH
"Additionally, the planned release of radioactive steam to bleed off pressure has been delayed due to a failure in the electrical systems required to execute the venting.]"

That's potentially disastrous.

Think of a pressur cooker where the heat keeps going up and the "steam" cannot release.

Water vapor can get hot enough to melt steel under pressure...

135 posted on 03/11/2011 6:21:37 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: palmer
...Whatever was going to be wrecked is probably wrecked.

Actually - wrecked AND WEAKENDED. Subsequent quakes, especially as strong as 7.+, can easily bring down the already weakened buildings.

I always worried about the 'aftershocks"

136 posted on 03/11/2011 6:26:00 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: listenhillary

got THAT right!


137 posted on 03/11/2011 6:28:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Smogger

Hey..my old Erector set.


138 posted on 03/11/2011 6:31:42 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: listenhillary

And if that giant asteroid hits Yellowstone will be least of our worries and if the sun explodes that giant asteroid ....Etc.


139 posted on 03/11/2011 6:36:39 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: No Socialist

“So the fact that no one died means that no one ever will and they aren’t a hazard?”

Do you want electricity?

Everything has risk. Do you ever leave your house?

Do you think coal is hazard free? Do you think oil is hazard free? Do you think hydro power is hazard free? Do you think ANYTHING is hazard free?

The risks associated with nuclear energy are manageable and acceptable when weighed against the benefits. Decades of safe use in this and other countries has proven that fact. Hell, even the French can safely operate nuclear plants.

The anti everything greenie / commie / human hating hippie types resort to emotional manipulation (IE: they scare people) to press their no nuke agenda.

I see hysteria based on ignorance right here on this thread.

It makes me sick.


140 posted on 03/11/2011 6:41:11 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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