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4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed, Fox News Confirms [banner only]
FOX ^ | February 22, 2011

Posted on 02/22/2011 6:08:59 AM PST by TomGuy

Edited on 02/22/2011 6:19:00 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; bibles; hostages; obamasfault; piracy; pirates; rip; somali; somalia
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To: Chuckster

Thank you for posting the link to their website.


141 posted on 02/22/2011 8:04:30 AM PST by good old days (God bless Sarah Palin.)
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To: Munz
Munz...you are correct, nothing will/can happen until we get a Leader who has some guts and patriotism (unlike the current empty suit). These are sad days...however, after watching Allen West, I have some hope!
142 posted on 02/22/2011 8:04:37 AM PST by halo66
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To: r9etb

>There was never going to be a good end to this particular situation.... the question now is, will Obama use it to teach the pirates a lesson they’ll remember?<

But this is hardly an isolated incident. There are hundreds being held hostage even now.
Meanwhile the entire coast is full of ships that are used by hijackers and pirates that are being left alone by everyone.

Obama will do NOTHING. For him to do a preemptive strike would be unheard of and against his core values of hurting another Muslim.

That entire coastline should be and could be blockaded by warships - using pirates for target practice.


143 posted on 02/22/2011 8:06:45 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: svcw

Wow, I don’t understand that mentality. The world is upside down.


144 posted on 02/22/2011 8:07:25 AM PST by Paco
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To: livius
Obviously, Hillary is as bad as Obama, but there must be a grownup somewhere in our government who recognizes the stakes here.

Hillary has no role in this -- there's nothing she could do with regard to the pirates themselves. That's Obama's problem.

What the State Dept. can do, is be working to assemble a coalition to deal with the pirates. There's something along those lines now -- a legacy of the Bush administration, I guess -- but it needs to be handled much more seriously.

I agree with your earlier assessment -- the pirates need to be wiped from the sea, and their shore bases (which are undoubtedly known) need to be flattened. We know pretty much where they are.

145 posted on 02/22/2011 8:08:19 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Fred Hayek
On another thread I suggested getting an old Osa class PTFG. Don’t need the SS-N-2 Styx anti-ship missiles for this. Fix it up so that it looks like a yacht from a distance. When a pirate boat approaches, keep enticing it, then uncover the batteries (surplus 40mm Bofors, 20mm Oerlikon, maybe a 7.62mm Minigun, and approach at 40 knots. Might want to add a white noise jammer so the pirates can’t radio home.

Nice!

146 posted on 02/22/2011 8:08:42 AM PST by jetson
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To: TomGuy

NOW WE HAVE AN EXCUSE TO GO IN AND WIPE OUT THAT NEST OF VIPERS!
B-52s in the air! Massive Naval bombardment! Storm the shores! NAPALM! (Il love the smell of napalm in the morning.)

Give us the word to do it, OBAMA! Oh wait...O.


147 posted on 02/22/2011 8:13:09 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: svcw

I knew it was rhetorical. Just havin’ fun with ya.

I don’t like hating people either, but what this man has already done and wants to do to this country has me absolutely bloody-eyed FURIOUS. In my 48 years on this planet, I have never seen such an utter disregard for the Constitution, for free enterprise, for Capitalism, for critical longstanding alliances, for America’s standing in the world, as I have with this jerk.

If, God forbid, he somehow gets re-elected, this country is finished. We simply cannot take another four years of his all-out frontal attack on the American way of life without crumpling into the dust. We just can’t.


148 posted on 02/22/2011 8:13:18 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: Munz
Still your question is valid .. they should be picked off by SEAL snipers who are .. I am quite sure, more than ready willing and able to send them to Allah.

Sorry, but that's just stupid chest pounding.

SEAL snipers are not magic, and they can't get all of the bad guys, and certainly not all at once.

All it would do, is guarantee that the hostages will, in fact, be killed.

149 posted on 02/22/2011 8:13:27 AM PST by r9etb
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To: halo66

Oh man .. Alen West .. now there is a man who should be leading our country right now.

Did you see this video of him confronting someone from CAIR?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZx38i6iYs&feature=player_embedded

West tells him to stop blowing sunshine up his butt.

THIS is a man I think all conservatives could get behind and take the presidency in 2012 with a landslide like never before.


150 posted on 02/22/2011 8:13:36 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Fred Hayek
On another thread I suggested getting an old Osa class PTFG. Don’t need the SS-N-2 Styx anti-ship missiles for this. Fix it up so that it looks like a yacht from a distance. When a pirate boat approaches, keep enticing it, then uncover the batteries (surplus 40mm Bofors, 20mm Oerlikon, maybe a 7.62mm Minigun, and approach at 40 knots. Might want to add a white noise jammer so the pirates can’t radio home.

Did you know that the British used this very tactic back in WWI, for use against U-boats? They called them "decoy ships." Apparently they were somewhat effective.

151 posted on 02/22/2011 8:15:33 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

chest pounding?

I think not. They dispatched two in a heartbeat quite nicely in the same situation two years ago freeing the captain of a boat.

There are more than enough snipers be they Rangers, SF, SEALS to put on the boats and deal with these situations if we had the will to do it. And they can do it in tandem.

The problem is we don’t have the administration with the will.

The other options are to pay the ransoms or watch it end as it did.


152 posted on 02/22/2011 8:18:33 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: NavyCanDo

That jogged my memory——Ghaddafi’s “Line of Death”—

Heh.

Sure miss Ronaldus Maximus.


153 posted on 02/22/2011 8:19:09 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Munz
That entire coastline should be and could be blockaded by warships - using pirates for target practice.

We're past the point of blockading now. This episode ought to provide a convenient excuse for more active measures -- outright attacks on known pirate bases; and active boarding, searching and, if necessary, sinking of "mother ships."

154 posted on 02/22/2011 8:20:12 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Munz
chest pounding? I think not.

Oh, I think so. As amazing as it is, you ascribe a magic to SEAL marksmanship that is simply not justified.

Keyboard Kommandos..... they're not just for land warfare anymore.

155 posted on 02/22/2011 8:22:07 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Fred Hayek

Looks like Blackwater is already there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/blackwater-gunboats-will-protect-ships-1024582.html


156 posted on 02/22/2011 8:25:07 AM PST by jetson
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To: r9etb

it is pretty much the entire coastline that is infested with these vermin. Let the ships run up and down the coast and use them for target practice.


157 posted on 02/22/2011 8:27:41 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Fred Hayek
On another thread I suggested getting an old Osa class PTFG. Don’t need the SS-N-2 Styx anti-ship missiles for this. Fix it up so that it looks like a yacht from a distance.

What you actually want is the Shershen PT variant. Practically identical, but without the Styx launcher topweight needing a beamier hull, the Shershens were faster and longer ranged.


158 posted on 02/22/2011 8:30:01 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it -Voltaire)
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To: r9etb

>Oh, I think so. As amazing as it is, you ascribe a magic to SEAL marksmanship that is simply not justified. <

I have seen some incredible shots. The snipers from SF don’t get to be snipers unless they can do things that would blow your mind. They use rifles that have had one or two shots to sight in, never used before by them.
There are no make up’s .. no second shots. If you miss, you are dropped from the program.

Unless you have witnessed it, you might want to reserve judgment. If you had witnessed it you would not doubt.

There is one keyboard Kommando in this thread, but it isn’t me.


159 posted on 02/22/2011 8:30:30 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: TomGuy

Send in the spooky guys to get all remaining hostages on the ground then carpet bomb the areas the pirates operate out of until we’re out of ammo...then use a few nukes for good measure.


160 posted on 02/22/2011 8:32:16 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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