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Earth to birthers: the facts about Obama’s birth certificate
The Daily Caller ^ | 02/16/2011 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 02/16/2011 7:38:10 AM PST by Rational Thought

A new poll shows just over half of likely Republican primary voters question where President Obama was born. What’s up with “birtherism” and why does it have such staying power?

The evidence shows Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama released a “Certification of Live Birth,” a document produced by the state of Hawaii certifying the state holds records that a person was born there.

Further, two Hawaiian newspaper announcements from 1961 tell of Obama’s birth. Janice Okubo, a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, told the Honolulu Advertiser in July 2009 that such newspaper announcements were based on notifications from the Health Department, which received information directly from hospitals.

The certification of live birth Obama released is legally sufficient documentation to apply for a U.S. passport, but it’s not the same thing as a “long form” birth certificate, called a “Certificate of Live Birth” in Hawaii. That document is issued by hospitals and includes additional information not on the certification.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; blainewashington; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; samemediapropaganda
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To: Rational Thought
Enough with the bread and circuses.

Cut spending, now!

No red cape waving for the purposes of distraction.

21 posted on 02/16/2011 7:50:00 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: kittycatonline.com
Political insiders posit several theories. One is that the issue serves as a means to discredit portions of the right wing as unhinged for delving into what is widely considered a fringe issue.

This is why they won't resolve the issue.

Regardless of the reasonableness of the suspicions, the issue has been marginalized, and by many on our own side.

When I think through all of the likely outcomes of pursuing the BC issue, none of them end up with Obama leaving office. And Obama doesn't have to do a damn thing to defend himself. Whether he was born here or not, the issue is a loser.

22 posted on 02/16/2011 7:51:04 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Rational Thought

Earth to Jonathan Strong: there has been no long-form certificate shown. Even if there was, Obama may not be an NBC because his father was not a citizen.


23 posted on 02/16/2011 7:51:25 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Man - the article is titled the “facts” about the birth certificate, and yet it finally has to come out and admit that NOBODY HAS PRODUCED THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. How can there be “facts” about an original document that has never been revealed? Geez.

They are trying to make “birther” into a perjorative meaning “crazy racist” or something. I don’t consider myself a “birther”, but it is incredibly messed up that the underlying document has never been released and yet they want to paint anyone as a nut who just would like to see the evidence confirming that BHO is a natural born citizen. That’s all - just show us the underlying proof that he meets one of the qualifications to hold his office. It’s the Presidency of the United States for crying out loud.


24 posted on 02/16/2011 7:51:25 AM PST by rockvillem
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To: Rational Thought
Say that I accept this "answer" to the question of the birth certificate. (I don't, but I'm speaking hypothetically.) Where's the college transcript? I mean, if I'm being told that this guy is the smartest president we've ever had, I'd like to see why he's so smart? Because I sure haven't seen it through his actions. Wasn't he the editor of the Harvard Law Review? Where are his editorials? What has he written? What has he done? He was a professor... what has written? Was he not published? Again... what has he done?
25 posted on 02/16/2011 7:51:33 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: Menehune56

Agreed.

Media feeds on itself, as the line “It’s good enough to get a passport” has been repeated over and over, as recently as last night by Anderson Cooper.

The reporting on this entire Birth Certificate has taken assumptions continuously repeated as facts.


26 posted on 02/16/2011 7:52:47 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: devistate one four

What if Barack Sr. had become a naturalized US citizen before Obozo’s birth?


27 posted on 02/16/2011 7:53:34 AM PST by DryFly
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To: Rational Thought
that such newspaper announcements were based on notifications from the Health Department, which received information directly from hospitals.

But that isn't the ONLY place they received information. They would also receive it from someone registering in person at the DOH.

28 posted on 02/16/2011 7:53:54 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: Rational Thought; potlatch; holdonnow; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Jim Robinson

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The same alleged “sources” and alleged “evidence” also say B. Hussein Obama II*s half-sister was born in Hawaii

But President B. Hussein Obama II says his half-sister was born in Indonesia.....

Who do you believe?

President B. Hussein Obama II or the state of Hawaii?

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29 posted on 02/16/2011 7:55:14 AM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . "- we*ll bring a gun!" . . alias Jimmy Quaeda Junior . . .)
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To: Rational Thought

Conspiracy.


30 posted on 02/16/2011 7:56:50 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Arm_Bears

It’s called a “question begging epithet”.

The left uses it all the time to avoid actually addressing the issue at hand. They denigrate the questioners.

Example:
“Is the individual mandate Constitutional?”
Nanzi Pelousi: “Are you serious? Are you serious? This is not a serious question!”


31 posted on 02/16/2011 7:57:41 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
My alternate theory:

5) Little Barack was listed as White on his long form birth certificate (1961 was way before interracial marriages and mixed race children were generally accepted).

During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama released a “Certification of Live Birth,” a document produced by the state of Hawaii certifying the state holds records that a person was born there.

Was that every really released in a form which could be examined? All I've ever heard of was a horribly overcompressed JPEG image of a COLB with so many JPEG artifacts it was impossible to tell if it had been edited or not and which no one every seemed to know exactly where it came from or who released it.

32 posted on 02/16/2011 8:00:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: ponygirl

You mean you can’t take his word for it?
People get high level jobs all the time just by saying they have high grades and that they graduated form the best colleges.
Proof?
That’s racist, you have to take the black man at his word......./S


33 posted on 02/16/2011 8:00:55 AM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race.)
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To: Rational Thought

He goes on to

He posits several theories on why BOH won’t release his birth certificate, outlines the Abercrombie brouhaha, and wonders if Abercrombie even asked Obama for authorization to release it.

“We know Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, but not why he won’t release his long form birth certificate. Neil Abercrombie’s embarrassing flop on “taking care of that” is perplexing, if only because it’s amazing a veteran politician could fail so visibly. There is no explanation of why his health director resigned.”


34 posted on 02/16/2011 8:01:39 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Rational Thought

People should refuse to cash their income tax refunds until he produces the long form.


35 posted on 02/16/2011 8:05:47 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: MrB
Nancy is never series. Astroturf brain on display.
36 posted on 02/16/2011 8:06:04 AM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: Rational Thought
Every time I want to be rational about this, something curious pops up that gives me more doubts. The latest was the governor spouting off about getting the certificate himself so he could end this debate, only to turn around and say that even he can't produce the records.

If I were an enterprising reporter in Hawaii, I'd find a few people born there in 1961 and ask them if they can find their birth certificates. That should be simple enough.

37 posted on 02/16/2011 8:07:19 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

“Some theories:

1) Obama’s mom is really is sister while his granddad is really his father with the mother being a early 60’s version of a crack whore.

2) Dad is Frank Marshall Davis

3) Dad is unknown

4) Dad is Malcolm X which would explain why so many people have helped Obama

5) Obama had duel citizenship”
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I, personally, think he IS an American (unfortunately) that was born in Hawaii. However, the story of Obama Sr. being daddy was a ruse fabricated by Stanley Dunham to cover his daughters “dating preferences” while a high school senior back in Seattle. I think there is a book out now that investigates this possibility, but I can’t recall the authors name. If anyone knows please post and book title too.

So option “3” would be my guess.

I also heard a story that, at first, some of Zero’s mothers’s girl friends from her high school days were very
chatty about Stanley Ann’s “dating preferences”, back then, but they abruptly stopped talking.


38 posted on 02/16/2011 8:07:19 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: Rational Thought

Lost credibility in sentence 3, by using term “evidence shows”


39 posted on 02/16/2011 8:07:29 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: TexasPatriot1

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, stated she had personally viewed the long-form birth certificate

The new Gov. of HI Abercrombie, a close personal friend of Obama Sr. syas he’s looked everywhere and cant find it

What happened to it now? Did Linda Lingle take it with here when she left?

It’s just vanished into thin air, it appears!


40 posted on 02/16/2011 8:09:17 AM PST by bodfish ((Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity.))
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