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Egypt unrest: Tense stand-off in Cairo's Tahrir square : open battles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656 ^ | BBC

Posted on 02/02/2011 4:41:13 AM PST by sunmars

Update : battles have started.

There is a tense stand-off in the Egyptian capital's main square, after fights broke out between supporters and opponents of beleaguered President Hosni Mubarak.

Thousands of the president's supporters had surged into Cairo's Tahrir Square, dismantling barricades set up by anti-Mubarak groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dictator0bama; egypt; get0ut; mb; muslimbrotherhood; sourcetitlenoturl; tahrirsquare
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To: DTogo

I have a feeling that “street activities” here in the US will not involve throwing rocks.


201 posted on 02/02/2011 7:16:59 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well the young useful idiots certainly aren’t going to throw their i-pods, cell phones, or Starbucks lattes...


202 posted on 02/02/2011 7:20:55 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: semantic
The left doesn't have a monopoly on ignorance; so too does the right, and you're a perfect example.

Excuse me?

Speaking of ignorance, I'm not entirely sure you are qualified to make such judgments about me, or my situation for that matter. I expressed frustration with a SPECIFIC relationship that is influenced by current events. My views and knowledge beyond that was not presented as it wasn't relevant. Making judgments of the sort you have is, in itself, both ignorant and arrogant.

I am reluctant to accept advice from someone who begins the advice by insulting me. Be aware that whatever quality content you would otherwise offer is being viewed in context of your condescension.
203 posted on 02/02/2011 7:21:27 AM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: All
CNN’s Anderson Cooper beaten by a mob on the streets of Cairo...I will not believe this story until Charles Jaco reports live from the scene.
204 posted on 02/02/2011 7:21:46 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Reuters reporting new statement from Egypt’s Foreign Ministry rejecting US and European calls for immediate political transition in Egypt.

The Egyptian statement says it rejects calls for immediate political transition & views them as aimed to incite internal situation in Egypt.

Yes, i think i can safely say thats Mubarak telling Obama to go stick it.


205 posted on 02/02/2011 7:22:24 AM PST by sunmars
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To: sunmars
The Mubarak supporters are provoking the protestors

I have seen this American Thinker / The Story of the Egyptian Revolution article, posted by Clarice Feldman, linked at a couple other blogs..

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned on FR so far or not, but here we go.

In this article she reprints an account from an eyewitness in Egypt, Sam Tandros.

It's a long read, but it certainly depicts a different perspective of events than we are receiving from news outlets.

Here's one (of many) money paragraphs from that article:

Today the Egyptians are scared. They have been given a glimpse of hell and they don't like what they see. Contrary to Al Jazeera's propaganda, the Egyptian masses are not demonstrating anymore. They are protecting their homes and families. The demonstration last night had 5,000 political activists participating and not 150,000 as Al Jazeera insists. At this moment, no one outside of those political activists cares less now if the President will resign or not. They have more important concerns now; security and food.

IOW, if this report is accurate, it's the military vs. professional protestors in Egypt. The Egyptian populace are forming groups to defend their loved ones from lawlessness.

206 posted on 02/02/2011 7:22:38 AM PST by longjack
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To: longjack
IOW, if this report is accurate, it's the military vs. professional protestors in Egypt. The Egyptian populace are forming groups to defend their loved ones from lawlessness.

Even with our limited view from here in the states I tend to believe this appraisal. Something about the numbers involved just doesn't add up. There seem to be too few people involved to really be a grassroots uprising. This is too staged (from the left/islamist side) to be genuine. But it is so far having effect.

207 posted on 02/02/2011 7:26:25 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: sunmars

@edhenrycnn: Robert Gibbs tells me WH is this morning renewing its call for non-violence in #egypt | Oh, good. That’ll work.


208 posted on 02/02/2011 7:27:11 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Kennard
"They are not Protestants."

What manner of Christians are they, Latins or Maronites or Melkites?

209 posted on 02/02/2011 7:33:52 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: HushTX

I know how you feel. Too many family and friends support Obama and refuse to see the damage he’s doing to this country. They blindly support him destroying this country, all the while saying the most vile things about those of us who are trying to stop the destruction.


210 posted on 02/02/2011 7:34:27 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: DTogo

They are throwing concrete blocks, satellite dishes anything off the rooftops onto the people below. This is sadistic.


211 posted on 02/02/2011 7:34:42 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Red_Devil 232

“I have a feeling that “street activities” here in the US will not involve throwing rocks.”

Nor will we ride in on horses and camels. I wish I would have seen that. I tuned in too late to livestream.


212 posted on 02/02/2011 7:36:47 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Lessthantolerant
MB wants women and children hurt, injured and killed for the media to show around the world.

And al-Jazeera will happily be on-hand to report it all.

213 posted on 02/02/2011 7:37:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Kolokotronis
What manner of Christians are they, Latins or Maronites or Melkites?

They are Coptic Orthodox.

214 posted on 02/02/2011 7:49:28 AM PST by Praxeologue (io)
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To: paulycy
There seem to be too few people involved to really be a grassroots uprising

From what I can gather from quick looks at the article and comments at other sites, an original protest of c. 5000 was tweeted up to be 150,000. That drew a crowd a few days later of a million and the rest is history. The original 5000 protester non-event disappeared down the memory hole in the process.

From another POV, I looked at a site that studies revolutionary cylcles. They concluded that unlike the Tunisian revolution which started with famished people outside the capital and swept towards the capital (the historical model), the Egyption protests started in Cairo and showed organizational levels in the early that they felt were too high for a spontaneous event.

In that regard, I agree with your assessment.

215 posted on 02/02/2011 7:52:15 AM PST by longjack
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To: sunmars

If anyone wants really biased coverage of the events in Egypt, Press TV from Iran is available in English.

http://www.presstv.ir/#


216 posted on 02/02/2011 7:53:43 AM PST by Will88
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To: ponygirl
See, a lot of them are treating this as almost a sports team fanaticism. When you do give them the big heave ho, they suddenly realize, "Whoa... all this over politics?" Yes. It is that important. When you stand your ground and have good reason, it often makes them rethink things. If they don't, then... there's your answer. I realized a while back that politics are important because they represent your value system. And that's something you should never compromise for the sake of a "friendship" that probably isn't even worth it.

Maintaining a relationship with a friend who's an active Leftist is like maintaining a relationship with a friend who's an active member of the KKK. Yes, he may not personally participate in objectionable activities, but he implicitly supports people who do.

217 posted on 02/02/2011 7:54:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: FourPeas
all the while saying the most vile things about those of us who are trying to stop the destruction.

Yep - these Egyptian anti-government protesters are noble, yet flag waving "Teabaggers" here are subject to scorn, derision and threats.

218 posted on 02/02/2011 8:00:38 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: sport
The Muslim Brotherhood can thank the United States for giving them another Country. Why and how? The United States put obama in the White House. obama instigated, encouraged,andbehind the scenes , aided and abetted the Muslim Brotherhood and undercut, a/k/a stabbed Murback [sp?] in the back at each opportunity.

At this point, the only way to prevent an Islamist takeover would be to drown the rebellion in blood, killing the Islamists and radical clerics.

219 posted on 02/02/2011 8:02:44 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

It has my vote. Everyone of those murdering sobs that are killed probably saves at least a thousand innocent lives. The lives of people who want nothing more than to live and let live. To provide for and raise their families. They are like a cancer, they must be amputated from the body[ies] of decent individuals.


220 posted on 02/02/2011 8:07:01 AM PST by sport
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