Posted on 01/23/2011 5:20:33 AM PST by TexasCajun
HAWAII GROUND REPORT: Could Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie not be as incompetent and foolish as he appears, but orchestrating a deliberate birth certificate recovery dead end to cover his own papakole? UPDATED: Mystery solved! Reason Obama will not release birth certificate is because his name is legally written “Barry Soetoro” on it
Here’s an interesting Ground Report from Hawaii that contains an ingenious theory about Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie’s bizarre backtrack on releasing Obama’s birth certificate.
Remember, Abercrombie promised that once he was elected Governor he would prove Obama’s birth certificate existed because he would march down to the Hall of Records and demand its production from the archives…and he would then hold it aloft in the gentle Hawaiian breeze, high above his balding pate, for all the world to see, thereby producing the document Obama has spent millions to keep hidden.
(Excerpt) Read more at hillbuzz.org ...
I just a little younger than Obama traveled extensively as a child. From the time I was born to the time I was four or five I traveled on mom’s passport and after that I had my own US Passport.
So, doubt that Obama during that very same time period could have traveled on his mom’s passport and must have gotten his very own passport sometime when he was four or five.
More like 10 as it was on his return from Indonesia
*ucktooth fools no one. Unless he’s fooling himself.
For me and my siblings, we all had our US Passports by the time we were five and no longer could travel on mom’s passport.
Obama’s parents were not married, Obama has even said so, and in Hawaii at the time he was born, the mother’s name was used for any babies born out of wedlock.
And... just how can you be so sure that he's spent his entire adult life inside the CIA, particularly that there are so many rumors that his entire time at Columbia where nobody remembers him, is cover for all the trips he made to Afghanistan and Pakistan in deep cover black ops.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just saying that there are lots of people who do NOT believe the surface stories of this guy's life, and if he was CIA, it would make perfect sense that plenty of his life doesn't hold water, as it never really existed..... as he was busy elsewhere.
The idiots in Hawaii are stalling.
Obama now has a record, and it's time that FReepers focus on that rather than this issue which the idiot leftist governor of Hawaii is helping Barry by using it as a distraction.
I’m not trying to be argumentative, I’m just saying that there are lots of people who do NOT believe the surface stories of this guy’s life, and if he was CIA, it would make perfect sense that plenty of his life doesn’t hold water, as it never really existed..... as he was busy elsewhere.
I’m just saying that what is there then to hide with his background? It was public knowledge that George Herbet Walker Bush was head of the CIA. He became Reagan’s Veep and then ultimately spent 1 term as our preseident as well. Why haven’t the facts of Obama’s background come out? Is he still “under cover”? I don’t get it. Why have radicals and commies been installed all through out his administation, to flush them out? Is Obama’s rise to power a CIA coup?
The mom, the grandparents perhaps were CIA operatives. IMHO Barry is more likely the son of spies. And therefore the government wants to keep that information hushed. Remember when Obama first visited Moscow and Medvedev was introducing Obama to members of the DUMA, they refused to shake his hand. Was that a protest of some sort for past actions against the interest of Russia/Soviet Union?
Too many questions and theories. Let’s just see the bona fides including school records, etc.
You may disagree with me, but I seriously doubt that BHO would receive much of the youth vote were it to be documented that he was deep cover for the CIA, in fact, I believe that a great segment of his voters might describe such a background as, "He's a SNITCH."
I do NOT believe that anyone who voted for GHW Bush would EVER consider a career with the CIA or with any other intel agency or in ANY type of deep cover work in national security to EVER be anything whatsoever negative.
Okay, so let’s get this straight.
Fred Nerks thinks you can’t get FOIA information on Obama Sr because you don’t know his name or when he arrived and so evidently it isn’t worth attempting because you don’t know all the names he used.
“I am surprised no one has attemped to get his FOIA file.”
Nerks:
“From where? If you don’t know when he arrived or what name he may have used, how could you obtain information? “
And again, it isn’t worthwhile to pursue the FOIA information according to Nerks
“I have never done an FOIA but I am pretty sure you can file for one giving as much information as you can.
You don’t have to have ALL information to get information back.
There is no FOIA information on the web that I have seen about Obama, Sr.
Why has no one asked for it?”
Nerks:
“BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE RIGHT NAME AND WHERE TO SEND THE REQUEST!”
Then he uses the excuse that he is Australian
“I’m an AUSTRALIAN, not a citizen. You are, I imagine. “
So let’s be clear.
An FOIA request is important. You don’t need all of Obama Sr’s name to start the journey into obtaining his info. You can submit a request to various Departments. You can ask for a fee waiver. It is a pretty simple process. You can find out about it quickly on the internet. You don’t have to be a US citizen.
How to submit an FOIA request is not some deep dark secret. One search can get you the info.
As seen by Lolo and Ann’s file, the files reveal pertinent information both in what they do provide and what they don’t provide. For example, you don’t see Ann’s 1965 passport application but what you find in subsequent information indicates she did have a prior passport. So why suddenly is it missing?
The fact that information is missing is just as important as the information they provide. I shouldn’t have to spell out why you should seek what information you can get and then start to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
You see important information in Lolo’s immigration files.
Dr. Toru Nishigaya? Just how did this Assistant Chief of Staff at a Maternity hospital get involved with Lolo’s immigration case!
As for Obama, Sr...Nerks claims you can’t get anything and it isn’t worth doing because Obama wasn’t part of the airlift.
SO WHAT??? That is the exact reason why it is even more important to get that file to see what it says.
Furthermore, you do not know if the information in that article was erroneous reporting or part of some story that was done intentionally to mislead - or it could have been the simple truth.
NO ONE KNOWS at this point.
East West Center was a front for the CIA. Why is a reporter doing a story from some Black African about the students.
Nerks also makes the mistake of thinking the East West Center didn’t start until buildings were complete.
I highly doubt that...especially since it was a CIA front.
Of course if you don’t want to believe a former Spook involved with Operation Phoenix that said it was a CIA front..then I guess that is your choice.
All of these people doing the investigating - either anonymously or not anonymously haven’t thought to get Obama Sr’s file .. they think it isn’t important??
COME ON
Don’t tell people it can’t be done because you don’t know all his names or he wasn’t part of an airlift.
Just admit you don’t want to do it.
I know exactly how important it is and I DO NOT WANT TO DO IT. I don’t have a problem with anyone not wanting to do it because there are valid reasons why.
But don’t go around writing in capital letters that you can’t do an FOIA request on Obama Sr.
I hope someone eventually does do try to obtain his records. The clues in his records are just as important as the ones in Ann’s records.
AND YOU DO NOT NEED ALL OF HIS NAMES TO START THE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNEY.
“Remember when Obama first visited Moscow and Medvedev was introducing Obama to members of the DUMA, they refused to shake his hand”
I think that was debunked. I can’t remember the exact circumstances but it wasn’t what it seemed.
Being the son of spies, I can see why they would want to keep various things about him buried.
As for what happened once he was 18...what is the excuse for that??? Well, if he had the name Soetoro for some reason ..and for some reason he had to enter school as a foreign national..and that was part of something that happened when he was younger..and questioning that would unravel the whole mess... I can see keeping it quiet.
If this was just some ordinary guy lying to get scholarship money he might have been busted on it. But if he is the son of spies and it is interwoven into the cover...I can see it being kept quiet.
When building your thesis , you have to either accept it is very likely that the family was involved with the spooks or you don’t accept it.
It changes the way you look at the info.
For example, Obama Sr. Involved with the spooks???
Why the cover story of the airlift???
Was he on it or not.
If not, what was he really doing.
Was the article in the newspaper a message or part of another cover story. Why do an article on a Black Man in the 60s in Hawaii giving his opinion about a CIA front.
If he was here in 1955 why was he here. I am more familiar about events in Indonesia than I am in Africa so I don’t know what the CIA would have been doing with Obama Sr.
Etc Etc Etc.
If he was here in 1955 why was he here. I am more familiar about events in Indonesia than I am in Africa so I don’t know what the CIA would have been doing with Obama Sr.
With Obama Sr. the CIA might have wanted to get an understanding of the networks the Soviets were establishing/using to spread communism to Africa. Also remember the whole Malcolm X thing was tied into marxism.
I’m not angry with you. It’s not worth my energy.
You accused me of posting disinformation and referred me to an article at antimullah.com to learn the truth. I read it as you as requested. Alan had completely misinterpreted the John Charlton article on the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program. I posted a comment explaining that the article wasn’t what he believed it to be.
There was no disinformation in my post.
You’re welcome to whatever opinion you have of my efforts. I enjoyed your ping list, but now don’t want to be pinged by someone who lies about me.
“or had a drug history”, ..
do we actually have any info about this or just his lyin’ books and inferences???
Read Ayers' brilliant bio-legend (Dreams (and lies) of My Father."
Which again makes it clear as crystals, that uber hippie Abercommie with his hippo-mouth in which he put his both liberal foot into, could definably saved himself a lot of “trouble” and making an April Fool out of himself, if he just have asked Tim Adams first, hmmm!!!
The brilliant Cashill over at American Thinker agrees with your scintillating analysis. Bottom line:
“No, Virginia, Abercrombie is not screwing with the “birthers.” He is simply screwing up.”
More Prevaricating from Abercrombie
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/more_prevaricating_from_abercr.html
Theresa Cao tried to convince the whole chumps of girlymen/girlywomen in Congress publicly with NO effects whatsoever!!!
How can WE get it out to the public and the media???
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