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Hawaii Ground Report: ( Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Legally Barry Soetoro
The HillBuzz ^ | 1/23/2011 6:52:06 AM | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 01/23/2011 5:20:33 AM PST by TexasCajun

HAWAII GROUND REPORT: Could Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie not be as incompetent and foolish as he appears, but orchestrating a deliberate birth certificate recovery dead end to cover his own papakole? UPDATED: Mystery solved! Reason Obama will not release birth certificate is because his name is legally written “Barry Soetoro” on it

Here’s an interesting Ground Report from Hawaii that contains an ingenious theory about Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie’s bizarre backtrack on releasing Obama’s birth certificate.

Remember, Abercrombie promised that once he was elected Governor he would prove Obama’s birth certificate existed because he would march down to the Hall of Records and demand its production from the archives…and he would then hold it aloft in the gentle Hawaiian breeze, high above his balding pate, for all the world to see, thereby producing the document Obama has spent millions to keep hidden.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; certifigate; coverup; crime; crimes; dunham; eligibility; foreignaidfruad; fraud; hawaii; identityfruad; illegal; kurtz; lawlicense; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetoro; whosauntzeituni; whosyourmommy
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To: BuckeyeTexan
OK, I see that now. And I see Hawaii was totally evasive where they never in the end followed the UIPA request even after repeated efforts by Charlton for all the hospital births for the surnames of Dunham, Obama, Payne, Soetoro that Obama could have been born under.

Charlton:

"According to the Records Disposition Authorization for the Department of Health in 1980, The Schedule of Records Retention, on p. 60 of said document, lists the DoH Research and Statistics Office as retaining:

“VDR-6 Certificates of Hawaiian Birth Index: Retention Permanent: May Microfilm security copy. May microfilm search copy. May transfer a microfilm search copy to State Archives after events therein are over 75 years old.”

Please note that this Index is distinct from the Birth Index, since this index is for those eligible for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth."

Okubo gives false UIPA response to The Post & Email?
THE POST & EMAIL DEMANDS A PUBLIC INVESTIGATION

Well according to Abercrombie, he had to go to the State Archives even to find a written notation about Obama's birth. Odd (not) that Abercrombie could not find a birth certificate for Obama at the Hawaiian DoH. Why? Obama was not on any microfilm for the "Search" or the "Security" copies at the DoH? It hasn't been 75 years since Obama's birth to send over the search records that covers the time period in accordance with the DoH 'Records Disposition Authorization' as noted above.

601 posted on 01/24/2011 10:40:46 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Fred Nerks

Wish I could play the interview...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb—1AxmgZ8

This is from the KQRS morning show from 1/20/2011. Their Hollywood reporter Mike Evans that knows Neil Abercrombie for Governor of Hawaii personally, gave an interesting story about the birth certificate situation.

Audio source from site: www.kqrs.com - uploaded via http://www.mp32u.net/


602 posted on 01/24/2011 10:48:43 AM PST by Herbster
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To: TexasCajun

What is Dr. Corsi saying?


Actually Corsi is interviewd and Andy Martin is also interviwed later in that hour’s segment.

They both think Abercrombie had no idea what he was thinking bringing this all back up. And then to make a statement that there was something “written down” (a notation in state archives) does more damage to Obama because no documentation is forthcoming as the guv had promised. Andy Martin claims it is an issue that he is going to bring up in the 2012 GOP primaries as he has already his candidacy, because he knows the repubs will shy away from this topic and he (as a rogue player) will bring it to the forefront.


603 posted on 01/24/2011 10:50:04 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: hennie pennie

First off, I didn’t open the thread. Second, if bambi was such a fine student, who paid his own way through college, wouldn’t as a minority he would use this as an example to others?

What i was trying to point out was that the two are inextricably linked. What i wanted to know is are the colleges he went to covering up his records because he is a dumb ass or a dumb ass financed by sources that would expose him as a muzzie immigrant.


604 posted on 01/24/2011 10:50:23 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

If you mean was Obama Jr a CIA operative I don’t have an opinion on that.

But there is no way that Obama could have been elected without the approval of the CIA given that multiple members of his family very likely operatives.

If anyone is interested in what happened between 1790 and 1795 as it pertains to the law mentioning natural born citizens here is apparently the answer.

It is a very long read.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20829167/Natural-Born-Citizen-Congressional-Record-6-14-1967-p-15875-80#fullscreen:on

I will still maintain that if you believe the argument that Obama can’t be president because his father had British citizenship then you have to look at Romney to see if is dad was, in fact, a Mexican citizen since he was born in Mexico and the question about dual allegiance would be just as valid.


605 posted on 01/24/2011 10:51:00 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Red Steel

The Hawaii DoH is evasive because they’re covering up all of the fraud they’ve committed for decades with their vital records.

That’s not to say Obama isn’t hiding something. He certainly is. But the Hawaii DoH could have been way more cooperative than they chose to be. And that tells me they have their own little secrets (fraud.)


606 posted on 01/24/2011 10:53:01 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Red Steel

The Hawaii DoH is evasive because they’re covering up all of the fraud they’ve committed for decades with their vital records.

That’s not to say Obama isn’t hiding something. He certainly is. But the Hawaii DoH could have been way more cooperative than they chose to be. And that tells me they have their own little secrets (fraud.)


607 posted on 01/24/2011 10:53:20 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Rush talking about it now.


608 posted on 01/24/2011 10:55:46 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: BuckeyeTexan; FARS
that’s incorrect. There is a birth index record for “Barack Hussein Obama II.” You can verify it several places. The first place to look is on the Hawaii DoH website. They have it listed there. Secondly, there are pictures posted here at FR of the 1961 birth index listing that confirm it.

Proof? That's a "General Birth Index" according to Ladysforest, which doesn't prove anything about Obama being born in a Hawaiian hospital:

Here is what you are given when you request the General Index Data book for births at the Department of Health in Honolulu, this is an actual image of the book in the DoH.

And

"This trip was something I was determined to do because I wanted to see if the obama name was or was not in the index book. I wanted to know if the DoH would again claim that they only have a “General Birth Index”, and if they would refuse to make a copy of an index entry.

Most importantly I wanted real proof, and I doubted it would just be handed over. "

-end snip-

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/ya-cant-always-get-what-ya-want/

609 posted on 01/24/2011 10:59:14 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; BuckeyeTexan

That is it doesn’t “prove” or “confirms” a Obama hospital birth”.


610 posted on 01/24/2011 11:02:40 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2661833/posts?page=602#602

Do you think this is just some hollywood big mouth?


611 posted on 01/24/2011 11:06:53 AM PST by Herbster
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To: Red Steel; FARS

Correct. The General Birth Index entry for “Barack Hussein Obama II” doesn’t, in and of itself, prove that Obama was born in a hospital.

However, the fact that Obama isn’t listed in the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth index indicates that he did not qualify for the type of birth certificate that was issued to those born at home or whose parent(s) personally registered their birth within a year of the event.

Since he didn’t qualify for a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, he qualified for a standard birth certificate, which is usually generated by birth at a hospital. But to your point, yes, it’s speculation that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii.


612 posted on 01/24/2011 11:13:47 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: TexasCajun; LucyT; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...

Ping......................

Paraphrasing Rush:

0b0z0 is the one who should resolve the BC “confusion” NOT Eric Cantor. And, for cooperation, the Democrats should acknowledge that Sarah Palin is a human being!


613 posted on 01/24/2011 11:15:02 AM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: hennie pennie

ping

There’s Something Deeply Wrong with the Birth Certificate Narrative

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2662450/posts


614 posted on 01/24/2011 11:15:28 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: melancholy

Why should Barry resolve it, when Boehner and Cantor are giving him a pass? (Actually, more than a pass; they are giving him legitimacy.)


615 posted on 01/24/2011 11:22:52 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Herbster
Yeah Crummy Commie has got a big mouth. That Youtube should go viral. That isn't hearsay testimony from his radio host buddy.

Rush's excuse not talk about it that he and other talk hosts that it is a probable set up. That Obama is going to whip it out when time is right. Malarkey. That audio needs to be sent to Rush and all.

All Rush has to do is say prove it Obama that you're eligible for presidential office.

616 posted on 01/24/2011 11:24:45 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: BuckeyeTexan; LucyT

You should listen to the audio in post 602. Enlightening.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2661833/posts?page=602#602

And Lucy, after listening to post 602 link(s), I think you should ping the list. This should go viral.


617 posted on 01/24/2011 11:28:23 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Fantasywriter; melancholy; little jeremiah

Listen to the YouTube audio in post 602.


618 posted on 01/24/2011 11:31:49 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Fantasywriter
Why should Barry resolve it,......

That was tongue in cheek advice from Rush. ;)

619 posted on 01/24/2011 11:31:49 AM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: melancholy

Ping......................

Paraphrasing Rush:

0b0z0 is the one who should resolve the BC “confusion” NOT Eric Cantor. And, for cooperation, the Democrats should acknowledge that Sarah Palin is a human being!


It’s NOT going away...

Here’s a reply from Pen Johannson to poster “voter” as can be seen in the comments section from that particular blogpost, which gives you insight into his ongoing investigative work in this area.

“To start with, we are in the process of requesting access to five different sets of records.

1. The written notification sent to Schatz by Cronin per HRS 11-113(d)
2. The posting of a notification of a private hearing
3. An hour by hour account of Obama’s time in Hawaii from someone among the media entourage or local media sources covering Oct. 23rd from 6:00 pm to October 24th at 5:00 p.m.
4. The written response by Obama to the challenge to his eligibility per HRS 11-113(e)
5. The written findings of the CEO after Obama successfully lobbied for his approval to be on the Hawaii ballot.”

January 18, 2011 6:03 PM

Can’t wait to see what the results are!!!

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/01/o-con-had-legal-help-from-non-partisan.html


620 posted on 01/24/2011 11:34:37 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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