Posted on 01/13/2011 9:22:36 PM PST by Libloather
What happened to “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism”?
Frankly, I agree with the call for greater civility among elected and aspiring politicians.
I doubt any reasonable person expects entertainers like Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc. (or the equivalent on the left) to tone themselves down. Their ratings would drop and that is not what they get paid to do.
Rather the point is that the elected and aspiring politicians don’t get drawn into the same type of rhetorical exchange.
I do believe that Sarah Palin, as long as she allows for the possibility that she will run for elected office (and in part by virtue of already having held it) has a different responsibility than Glenn Beck - who nobody expects to attempt to try to get elected. He is an entertainer pure and simple. She is a politician. People are smart enough to differentiate.
Therefore, if Rush’s point is that to ask him and his like to be more “civil” than he is right about it being censorship. If the point is that the supposed “adults” who actually lead the country might be well advised to actually discuss things more like adults and less like middle-school children than I agree with that. I also am of the opinion that the President actually did mean to chastise both sides in this respect.
Of course I am far less to the right than many here and don’t see everything through coke bottle partisan lenses. So I am sure I will be corrected - in a civil manner of course.
ERE, interesting ‘civility’ perspective. I would ask if you thought the 111th or 110th US Congress was civil with ‘adult’ leadership. It is obvious that the bi-partisan democrats were drunk with power and intent on completely blocking any attempt from the opposition to have input in an enormous amount of law making. No amendments nor discussion allowed. This may be what you expect from your EU rulers and especially from your German history of representative democracy but that is exactly NOT what we as free citizens expect or will allow. It would be better and more ‘correct’ if you could try to understand more about our country before posting on this site.
What makes you think I am a German citizen?
You know what happens when you assume.
I only saw the second half of the speech which I did not care for. I hear the first part of Obama’s speech was more inline with the purpose of a memorial.
I noticed the classic preachy, disciplinary BS that included broad generalizations about the need for bipartisan civility by all Americans. He conveniently gave a pass to the instigators on the Left by lumping them in with the general population whom are without any fault whatsoever.
Left politicians prefer to build a majority like they did in 2006, and then practice power-politics.
Parliamentary bonhomie has been low on their list of priorities since 1974 and the "Watergate class" of new legislators came to DC under the Democratic banner, with a new moral smugness and disinclination to confer and cooperate, the way things had been done in the old days. That was the start of the resumption of factional fractiousness. Guys like Robert Michel and Bob Dole and James Rhodes got walked on like doormats: Hence the assertive, combative style taken on by Newt Gingrich.
The old-style Republican conciliators were getting no results with the more liberal, and more frankly Frankfurt-School Marxist, Democrats. So Newt started really competing and playing hard with them, and the Democrats picked up the clubs -- this includes the Media people, who are 90% partisan Democrats (and lie about it) -- and went after all the conservatives, playing for keeps. It's been plumb rough in Congress and national politics ever since the Republicans won the Congress in 1994, something the Democrats had forbidden them to do, lol.
As the title of James Carville's 2008 book showed (40 More Years), the Democrats were hoping to build a one-party, one-armed Republic -- a People's Republic, very like your old DDR. Younger Democrats all have the mentality of Stasis anyway.
The ink was still wet, so to speak, on Obama's speech when Katie Couric ignored him and organized another lynch-mob getogether with some Congresscritters, including Black Caucus stalwart Rep. Clyburn, who "bracketed" (good propaganda word) white conservatives with segregationist mobs of the 1950's and the Ku Klux Klan -- and the Arizona gunman, crazy eyes and all. "I saw eyes like that, back in the day...." -- bushwah, dude.
Real smear party. Sounds like his own partisans weren't listening to Obozo.
“Frankly, I agree with the call for greater civility among elected and aspiring politicians.”
Question please; Why?
If politicians and government bureaucrats want civility, they need to stop attacking the Peoples liberty!
“A gentleman is never UNINTENTIONALLY rude.”
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One thing that everyone needs to understand is that leftists are not in the least bothered or embarrassed by these exposures of their hypocrisy. They know they are using a double standard, but they have no sense that that’s “wrong” when they do it. After all, they’re advancing an agenda toward a goal of ultimate utopia on earth, so any means necessary are justifiable.
But, I’m not saying it’s a waste of time to point it out.
There are those who AREN’T leftists who don’t pay much attention most of the time, yet vote. THEY are the ones that vote for what sounds good, and if they associate leftism [rightly] with inherent dishonesty, then so much the better for the cause of truth.
Chris Wallace on Fox News just now said that being "civil" meant that we shouldn't call the current administration "socialist" or "fascist."
That is absolutely unacceptable. That is to fail to accurately label a marxst political movement that is taking over the country. That is a partisan control-the-debate tactic. It cannot stand.
A civil person has the right to correctly label a marxist as a marxist. Period. The marxist, due to the nature of marxism, will accuse the civil person of lying and trying to smear him "un-civilly." That is because marxists lie. How do you resolve this well-known real-life situation???
Obama has a LONG history of calling for civility, while he lets his minions (and himself) continue to do attack and incite:
Gallup: 35% Think The Tone And Civility Between Dems And Republicans Has Gotten Worse Under Obama http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2310567/posts
Obama pleads for civility, cooperation in politics (Barf)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2439725/posts
Obama Demands Civility But Keeps Attacking
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2443194/posts
Obama prays for civility in Washington
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2444503/posts
Victor Davis Hanson: Obama and the New Civility (Kicks butt & takes names!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2498044/posts
Obama Defends Priorities, Makes Plea for Civility [”Direct Rebuttal To ‘Tea-Party’ Activists”]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2504855/posts
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