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All I can say is that the past century of liberals expanding government and attempting to create a socialist utopia have caused this to happen.

The entitlement programs/benefit programs - Social Security retirement (SS), Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI), Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Subsidized Housing (Section 8 Housing), Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), Farm subsidies, that new federal program that gives free cell phones to welfare recipients etc… have mostly contributed to this disaster (a $14 Trillion disaster) but because these programs are sacrosanct it was impossible to get any type of reforms made. And not only did the Democrats halt reform efforts their goal has been to create even more entitlements i.e. Obamacare.

1 posted on 01/11/2011 9:41:34 PM PST by Angelus
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To: Angelus

It already is, this just props the problem up a little longer.


2 posted on 01/11/2011 9:45:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Angelus

Tax the gross assets of all ‘rats.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 9:45:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Angelus

he’s jumping the gun that little pos


4 posted on 01/11/2011 9:45:06 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT ( JC Webster's fav words: "the boiling pits of sewage" roflmao)
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To: Angelus

How do we “default” on our debts by raising the amount we are willing to go into debt??

One would think we’d be further from default by not taking on as much debt and cutting spending.


5 posted on 01/11/2011 9:45:18 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Angelus

The financial logistics of raising the debt ceiling to avoid defaults must be balanced with real and immediate cut backs in Federal spending starting with Obamacare.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 9:45:36 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Angelus

Don’t forget massive pension/retirement payments agreed to by local, state and federal officials to government workers.


7 posted on 01/11/2011 9:46:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Angelus

The US obviously must go on a New Jersey diet x 10. But, if we actively use our resources (drill, Baby, drill) and get inexpensive energy back into the equation, America will prosper yet again.

Do all the right things and we have more than a chance; we will prevail!


8 posted on 01/11/2011 9:47:41 PM PST by One Name
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To: Angelus
Here we go. The admin trying to stampede the Republican House into more emergency financial management to stave off "disaster". The whole point is to either force the Republicans to cave, thus angering their base, or to do nothing so that they can blame the disaster (that they intend to precipitate anyway) on the Republicans.

I hope the Republican leadership is smart enough to see what's going on here and really take it to the administration.
9 posted on 01/11/2011 9:48:38 PM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: Angelus
“This letter by Geithner, and the coming battle within Congress over raising the debt ceiling, will not end well no matter the outcome for the American people. If the debt ceiling is raised, then the Fed will print more money, and price inflation will climb much higher. If cap and trade is not passed sometime soon, then other forms of taxation will be imposed to pay the interest on the rising debt the government owes. We have been warned, in both a subtle and not so subtle way by the Treasury Secretary. The government is within months of insolvency, and the complete destruction of the dollar and our economic system is tied now to a single debate about to rage in Congress.”

o.k.... now, what can we do? he says, “we have been warned”. Yeah, we got the message after we went to the town hall meetings and were thrown out.... we got the message when we wrote and called our congress people, to no avail.... we got the message, alright.... WE DON'T MATTER!! the current obamanation regime is beating all of us down and stomping us into the ground.

so, when an article ends with “you have been warned”, it kind of makes me mad! Because, we have tried, and tried, and tried...... and been abused and beaten back.

the US is bankrupt. I saw the obamantion say those exact words during the last year on a tv interview with a snicker... yeah. he thinks it's funny... well, it is anything but funny to us who love this country...to those of us who didn't just spend weeks in Hawaii on someone elses money....

what we can do is to pray that God will once again place His hand over this country and save us from ourselves.

10 posted on 01/11/2011 9:50:16 PM PST by bareford101 (. All Muslims lie to infidels to confuse them)
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To: Angelus

What would actually happen if we defaulted?


15 posted on 01/11/2011 9:57:19 PM PST by funfan
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To: Angelus

“... the past century of liberals expanding government and attempting to create a socialist utopia have caused this to happen.”

Bike trails. It was the GD bike trails.


19 posted on 01/11/2011 10:07:28 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: JDoutrider

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26 posted on 01/11/2011 10:46:51 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Angelus

No problem Timmy. Just repeal Obamacare and you will get your precious little debt limit increase.

Your move.


28 posted on 01/11/2011 11:11:25 PM PST by bigoil
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To: Angelus

Here is the US is bankrupt article mentioned

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-11/u-s-is-bankrupt-and-we-don-t-even-know-commentary-by-laurence-kotlikoff.html


32 posted on 01/12/2011 12:41:57 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Angelus
Treasury Secretary Geithner says in letter to Congress US may go into default

Hat Tip: http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/


34 posted on 01/12/2011 1:10:31 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Angelus

Wait! we have two months to slash spending below GDP. Then their would be no default.


35 posted on 01/12/2011 1:14:51 AM PST by Revel
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I’m going to copy that letter and give to my brother-in-law. He can reword it and send it to VISA to up his credit limit. That way everything will be okay. Right?


36 posted on 01/12/2011 1:20:10 AM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Angelus

The ever expanding economic pie where masses reproduce and grown the industrial er green service sector.

Strangly the only ever expending economic activity matching population expention was/is everlasting credit explosion.


39 posted on 01/12/2011 3:06:29 AM PST by Flavius (A)
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To: Angelus

It was also the received wisdom that a bankrupcy would destroy GM.


42 posted on 01/12/2011 5:33:30 AM PST by Ford4000
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The expansion of socialism was bi-partisan plus driven by the media and that is why it happened. With the “fairness doctrine”, there was no effective opposition voice and the socialists in both parties ran roughshod over the constitution for decades.

The Rinos and Democrats want to return to those days and Obama will go for using the FCC to silence the opposition with or without a new unfairness doctrine.


43 posted on 01/12/2011 6:23:27 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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