Posted on 12/27/2010 4:48:36 PM PST by i88schwartz
On Monday night's edition of "Hardball," host Chris Matthews talked about putting the birth certificate controversy surrounding President Obama to rest.
"Why has the president himself not demanded they put out the original documents?" Matthews wonders.
"If it exists, why not put it out?" Chris Matthews asks.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
It is very suspicious when Chris Matthews is suddenly asking for BO’s BC to be released.
Now that BO has his cronie installed as Governor of Hawaii don’t be surprised to see him release the expertly forged BC that he has had forged.
But of course it is irrelevant where his forged BC says he was born because by his own admission his dad was a British/Kenyan citizen and consequently he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen and NOT constitutionally qualified to be POTUS.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html
Sounds like Crissy just got marching orders from the Clintons.
The issue of Natural Born Citizen was brought against John McCain long before Barrack was nominated to the DNC as a Presidential Candidate.
In fact, in order to place McCain on the ballot, the United States Senate went so far as to craft the Senate Resolution 511 proclaiming John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
There is a cloud over Barrack's birth, to be sure. But the fact that still remains is his birth was of a divided nationality British and American. One is wholly one thing or another but not completely two things at the same time.
Senate Resolution 511
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen of the United States;
Whereas the term `natural born Citizen, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their countrys President;
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congresss own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen;
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
Now, let us take this simple and explore its hidden meaning.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen of the United States;
They apparently have read the Constitution and have zeroed in on one clause that no law or legislative body has the right to amend.
Whereas the term `natural born Citizen, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
The term natural born citizen is not defined, however other rulings by the Supreme Court, Congress, and other writings from such as John Bingham, do define what a natural born citizen is. For sake of space I will only quote the following.
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.
-Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_Z
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their countrys President;
So the Senate decided to make assumptions and attempt to pass a Gentlemans Agreement on the same. We have already seen from the prior statement that they claimed to have no knowledge of the meaning, and its definition.
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congresss own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen;
So the Senate decided to make assumptions and attempt to pass a Gentlemans Agreement on the same. We have already seen from the prior statement that they have no knowledge of the meaning, and its definition.
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
It sounds nice, but means nothing? Some fluff but again means nothing.
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whom are they referring to, that was born outside the United States and who deemed them eligible?
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
So the Senate gave by law, what nature failed to do. Would that not be a naturalized citizenship?
So the Senate deemed that two (2) American or US Citizen parents was an essential to the definition of a natural born citizen that was not defined in the Constitution. So how did they deem that the issue was being born outside the jurisdiction of the United States if they had no definition or requirements of what constituted a natural born citizen? It seems like they know the definition, but are hoping the American public doesnt. There is but one defintion that a natural born citizen has to have citizen parents and being born in country and that is Vattels Law of Nations.
As I refered to SR 511. SR511 is a non-binding, non-lawful understanding, that can not be held as a LAW. Being such, a non-binding resolution is a written motion adopted by a deliberative body that cannot progress into a law. The substance of the resolution can be anything that can normally be proposed as a motion.This type of resolution is often used to express the bodys approval or disapproval of something which they cannot otherwise vote on, due to the matter being handled by another jurisdiction, or being protected by a constitution.
Again, I will note: being protected by a constitution.
Simple resolutions do not require the approval of the other house nor the signature of the President, and they do not have the force of law.
The reason I make this point is that for the chance that John Mccain would have actually won the 2008 Presidential election. The issue of his eligibility not only would have been brought up, but would have stated congressional hearings, the likes of Watergate all over again. The Congress would have in no time instituted articles of impeachment and the motion would have been approved. Then the Senate would have their chance to remove John McCain, however since they already have voted with their Gentlemens Agreement, regardless how the vote went. A non-binding, non-lawful resolution that trumps the United States Constitution could be waved in front of the American public, and John McCain, could go back in the corner, stick his thumb in his pie, and exclaim Oh, what a good boy am I.
Senate Resolution 511, was an attempt to circumvent the United States Constitution, and amend the Natural Born Citizen Clause of which there has NEVER been an amendment or change too.
More then just a non-binding resolution, SR511 defined John McCains eligibility based on being born of US Parents [NOTE the plural] but outside the country. Therefore the only alternative based on THEIR wording is born in country. They did not change the requirement of two (2) US parents.
Where is there a definition as to a Natural Born Citizen based on parents [again plural] and born in country? Vattels Law of Nations.
Why if John McCain was held to these requirements, was Barack Obama not held of being born of US Parents [plural] and in the United States.
Barack Obama has admitted that not only was his father a foreign national, but that he himself was a British Subject at birth. A British Subject is a foreign national and how can a foreign national be a Natural Born Citizen as required by the United States Constitution?
Never going to happen - Barry will do his maximum damage in 4 years and then off to Cuba or Nicaragua or some other safe haven.
Ping
...plus his real Selective Service registration card.
Matthews holds up a photostat copy of a real birth certificate, mentions the numerous signatures on it and then shows the Obama “certificate of live birth” and all the commentators agree that the latter is good for getting a passport or joining the CIA or any other government use.
My understanding is that the Hawaiian state government itself said that “certificate of live birth” document does not substitute for certain purposes under Hawaiian law, such as proof of birth for native (i.e. tribal) benefits.
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time this administration has used misdirection.
Not only that, but if he caves on showing his BC folks are likely to put pressure on wanting to know where he was during his college years at Columbia.
LOL!! Can never have too many, I guess. ;o)
It doesn’t exist genius
Yeah if the birth certificate is settled then the spotlight will be on the citizenship of his father...which is the real issue anyay.
He wound it all up by agreeing among his three guests that there is nothing to the story.
I don't mean legal identity but one's personal search for answers of their past.
Was the "omission" he spoke of actually on the Birth Certificate, just after the word FATHER_________?
Or was there a multiple choice answer given to that question?
Nope, but he is a stalking horse for HRC and in that role he may be useful. An idiot, but a useful one.
Yes, I can hear Bill and Hillary chuckling now. Obama is in deep doodoo.
Barack Obama has admitted that not only was his father a foreign national, but that he himself was a British Subject at birth. A British Subject is a foreign national and how can a foreign national be a Natural Born Citizen as required by the United States Constitution?
43 posted on Monday, December 27, 2010 7:10:36 PM by Vendome
BO could not be a Natural Born Citizen even if he was born in the Lincoln Bedroom.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html
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