Posted on 12/27/2010 4:48:36 PM PST by i88schwartz
On Monday night's edition of "Hardball," host Chris Matthews talked about putting the birth certificate controversy surrounding President Obama to rest.
"Why has the president himself not demanded they put out the original documents?" Matthews wonders.
"If it exists, why not put it out?" Chris Matthews asks.
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If Matthews is asking about Obama’s BC, then surely he’s been tipped off that Obama is about to release his forgery.
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Murder of Mr. Lieutenant Quarles Harris, Jr.
His first name was Lieutenant.
“Lieutenant” was a name given to him by his parents, not a rank he attained.
(It is possible that parents could name a child “Beautiful” , but the name wouldn’t make her/ him beautiful.)
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Notice in the interview that Chrissy predicted that the birthers won't believe that any BC released isn't real. Birthers are being set up.
Someone should write a book about all this titled “Dreams of his Father”. It would make the bestseller list. Heck all the information is right here on FR albeit on at least a hundred different threads.
Is that why The New York Times article mentioned the phrase "long form" when none of the MSM articles have mentioned that specific phrase before?
How many legitimate copies would there be of Obama's "original" long-form BC? Are they made in triplicate, all signed, one for you, one for the hospital, one for the govt? Has that changed since 1961?
The one he claimed in his book to have at home...is that number one-of-three? One-of-two? The ONLY one?
The problem: the forgery would be the single, perfect created document, something unique, one of a kind. Perfectly aged paper, the right antique typewriter used, etc.
If I were running for President, I'd take a press entourage (completely on the spur of the moment) down to the Country Recorder's Office (during normal business hours, of course) and order my long-form birth certificate copy on the spot. I could order as many legitimate, official copies I wanted, as long as I paid the fee for each one of them.
(Then I'd go down the street with the entourage and show them the hospital building--still standing!--mentioned on the birth certificate.)
So, with "a perfect forgery" BO can't do what I just mentioned above. If there's only one perfectly aged forgery created to wave around, that's not the same thing as being able to call one up in situ from an official government records department.
The practice might vary by state. But, in Oklahoma, the practice is to maintain the original among the state archives. The individual is then issued a photostatic copy, which is certified.
Additional certified photostatic copies are available upon request, for a fee. As many as you want.
Some party apparatchik will always be available for a signature.
What is important is that at least one state require that any candidate for POTUS release to the public any and all documentats pertaining to his birth, including hospital/midwife records, before his name can appear on any ballot. Second rate documentation such as a COLB should not suffice when better documentation such as a long form birth certificate is available.
Also, those documents should be made available for examination by experts, to determine whether or not they are authentic. At this late date, any new documents released by Obama should be regarded with the most extreme skepticism.
To me it looks that he really has a copy of the twins birth certificates, WOW???
Seems somebody gave him a copy of the Nordyke twins long form b.c. born before Barry???
I wonder how many subsequent photostats of the original were made and still exist? I wonder how many photocopies of the photostats exist, and where? And I wonder how many COLB's were created or issued for Obama?
Sheesh, gets ugly quick, don't it?
Dear Chris Matthews,
I now prefer he hide his BC and have the States reject his entry on to ballots. Let it end there.
Chrissy is doing this out of spite. He rally wanted to have the bamster’s child..
Not me!!!
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ELECTION 2000
Honolulu Advertiser, The (HI) - Monday, October 23, 2000
Author: Advertiser Final, Roth Susan, Staff
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The Neil Abercrombie file
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Career experience: College teacher, 1959-63; probation officer, Marin County, Calif., 1964-67; sociologist, 1967-74; college professor, 1979-80; consultant, 1983-87, 1989-90; assistant Hawaii superintendent of education, 1987-88. Elected Hawaii House of Representatives, 1974-78; Hawaii Senate, 1978-86; U.S. House, 1986-87; Honolulu City Council, 1988-90; U.S. House, 1990-present.
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http://www.kevo.com/biography/neil_abercrombie
Work History
Abercrombie worked as a waiter and custodian.
He worked as a graduate teaching assistant, Sociology Department,
University of Hawaii, Manoa. He worked as the senior deputy at
Marin County Probation Department. A lecturer, graduate teaching
and research assistant, American Studies Department between 1969-7193,
University of Hawaii, Manoa. A lecturer, Sociology, Leeward Community
College. The director, Construction Apprenticeship Program. Abercormbie
was also a visiting assistant professor, Sociology, Hawaii Loa College. He
also worked as a special assistant to superintendent of education, State of Hawaii.
He was also an instruction between 1975-1978, Study Abroad Program.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/14/politics/washingtonpost/main3621961_page2.shtml
Abercrombie witnessed the crumbling of Barack Obama Sr. during a trip to Africa in 1968. He and a mutual friend from Hawaii stayed with their old pal in Nairobi. “It was clear to us how disappointed he was,” Abercrombie recalls. “He was drinking. There was a bitterness in him, an edge.”
Years later, after “Little Barry” had become an Illinois state senator and had unsuccessfully challenged Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-Ill.) for a congressional seat, Abercrombie telephoned Obama to let him know that he had been a friend of his father’s. Obama was grateful for the call, Abercrombie says, but left the impression that “he didn’t want to pursue it.”
Though both now serve in Congress and Abercrombie is an ardent supporter of Obama’s presidential campaign, they have never discussed his dad. “We’ve never explored it, not even a little bit,” Abercrombie says. “And that might have something to do with him.”
Obama says he normally sees Abercrombie on Capitol Hill and the conversation is typically about politics and legislation. “It’s certainly not out of a sense of avoidance.”
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http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/h/richard-hoyt/blood-of-patriots.htm
Blood of Patriots (1996)
A novel by Neil Abercrombie and Richard Hoyt
Terrorists storm into the crowded House of Representatives and open fire. Within minutes, more than a hundred members of Congress and staff lie wounded, dead, or dying on the floor of the nerve center of American democracy. The nation is shocked, the President is in hiding, the armed forces are on alert... But who perpetrated this horror, and why? Are the conspirators foreign? Domestic? A drug cartel? Right-wing militiamen? A foreign country? Perhaps even homegrown seekers of power? Dead terrorists can tell no tales. Enter James Burlane bearing a commission from the President himself. A maverick former CIA agent, gourmet, wit, cynic, and patriot, Burlane asks the time-honored question, “Who profits?” The answers lead him to the heart of a conspiracy that threatens the integrity of the American government.
FWIW, that's how I'm reading it...
"Interesting times..."
The thrill (up Chrissy’s leg) is gone?
I don’t know why the State Dept would need that. I didn’t need a “long-form” (from the State of Pa) to get my passport in 1979. I rec’d something from PA Gov’t which I sent to US Gov’t, and it was a new thing, dated 1979 (which is several years later than my actual birthdate).
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