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STOP THE SOCIALISM !

1 posted on 12/23/2010 3:01:02 PM PST by STARWISE
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I only have one question: Which is larger: the money Texas sends to D.C. very year, or the money it receives? If the former is larger, than Texas should simply ignore any EPA ruling on permits, along with any judge’s ruling upholding it. If the Feds make any threats, then simply halt all tax payments to Washington indefinitely.


2 posted on 12/23/2010 3:07:52 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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“Texas Governor Perry is fighting the takeover, of course, but EPA has rarely been faced down in court”
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maybe the time has come to face them down at the Red River with some M1A1s.


3 posted on 12/23/2010 3:10:17 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: onyx; SE Mom; hoosiermama; penelopesire; maggief; Liz; rodguy911; Allegra; LUV W

.. Ping!


4 posted on 12/23/2010 3:14:01 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Texas, declare CO2 a non pollutant. Take EPA’s wind out of their sail.


5 posted on 12/23/2010 3:15:50 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS!


8 posted on 12/23/2010 3:22:18 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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Charging human beings for breathing is the logical end to this CO2 logic. A tax for being alive.
9 posted on 12/23/2010 3:22:44 PM PST by allmost
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To: STARWISE; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; ..
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 12/23/2010 3:28:24 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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14 posted on 12/23/2010 3:35:11 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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Wake up our guys?

Wake up people, there is no one in government that want and will stop this.


17 posted on 12/23/2010 3:47:04 PM PST by RINOS ARE RADICALS
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Exactly what is Perry doing to fight this?


23 posted on 12/23/2010 4:14:32 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Texas should ignore/defy the EPA on this.

If any government agency attempts to reprimand any individuals or businesses in Texas, the governor should have standing orders for the Texas Rangers or national guard to arrest the agents.

The federal government is striking at the heart of state sovereignty on this, and Texas SHOULD NOT back down.


24 posted on 12/23/2010 4:24:36 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Wake up? Yea right. As long as the unemployment continues, beer is cheap, football/basketball/NASCAR is on every few days, and the neighbors wife is accessible for a quick tumble all is well with the world. Hey this socialism aint so bad after all.

NOBODY is waking up cause they don’t want to. We can write WAKE UP a thousand times a day on a thousand different websites or call those fools in Washington a hundred times a day and it will do no good. To precipitate the status quo ante, direct action against the status quo will be necessary. You can quote me on that.


26 posted on 12/23/2010 4:40:20 PM PST by Graneros (Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe)
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the EPA has taken one step closer to stripping the state of Texas of the right to determine how it wants to control air pollution.

Keep it up and Texas is one step closer to invoking it's negotiated right to return to soverign nation status...

30 posted on 12/23/2010 4:58:19 PM PST by SteamShovel (Beware the RINO-VIRUS...It will kill the TEA Party movement.)
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Everyoe expect your electricity bill to at least triple over this.

What is soooo crazy is the Chevy Volt has been named one of top cars of year. Goes 50-75 miles on pure electicity and then a horse of a 1.4 liter engine takes over and runs the generator. It takes an overnight charging to recharge the battery’s. If one would like they can install a 240V outlet that will charge the car in a shorter time.

G.E. just bought 12,000 of these cars. I hope they sell 12MM. I’m in the coal business. Guess where all that electricity is coming from? 51% of all electricity in the U.S. in coal generated. India and China can’t get enough of it. Neither country are regulating output like this. China is building ONE coal fired plant a week with no scrubbing etc.

Look at the coal stocks. They are soaring. Double edge sword. They (EPA)have mandated changes in water quality and now respitorial dust standards from 2mg/mm too 1mg/mm. We have run models of the impact and it is staggering to say the least.

IF the Fed’s impose these standards on all mining companies in the U.S. one will find that underground coal mining production will be cut in half. Prices are going to go through the roof and Met coal is gold right now in the foriegn markets.

The strategy I believe for US operators is not domestic but focusing on the export market for steam and met coal. The stock piles our dwindling as we speak and with these rules all it will do is to make it worse.

Simple: Supply and Demand

Hell, the recent EPA water reg’s are so that the frick’n runoff from their own parking lot will not meet the standards.

We now have no legislative body but a bunch of czar’s that are running this country. The executive branch has know by-passed any debate.


33 posted on 12/23/2010 5:18:02 PM PST by mmanager
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I probably won’t get this totally correct and I’m sure someone can correct me.

I believe that Texas has for years operated under an overall total emission standard for a given area as opposed to a standard based upon an individual facility/project emission within that area. That allows some facilities to be built in an area which violate some EPA standards but the total area comes in under EPA standard. I think the EPA is insisting that each project meet the standard rather than use the area wide standard.


34 posted on 12/23/2010 5:22:35 PM PST by deport
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Time for a red state revolt is long past. Which governors and state legislatures have the balls to do something about this power grab? This is pure political retribution, just like the offshore drilling ban, against states that didn’t vote RAT is the last 2 elections.


35 posted on 12/23/2010 5:27:11 PM PST by clintonh8r ("Let them eat lobster cake." Michele Antoinette, vacation #6.)
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0bama doesn’t believe in freedom. He believes in government.
And the majority of American voters will believe anything, because they believe in nothing.


36 posted on 12/23/2010 5:44:20 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Merry Christmas!)
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Direct link to EPA threat letter. The requirements take effect in ten days — January 2, 2011!!

http://www.eenews.net/assets/2010/12/22/document_gw_01.pdf


39 posted on 12/23/2010 6:06:25 PM PST by CedarDave (Tagline being updated...)
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DEFUNDING will stop all in thier tracks, provided the GOP does what THE PEOPLE SENT THEM THIER TO DO!


41 posted on 12/23/2010 6:13:38 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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I think the EPA will do this to all the states. It’s just that only Texas and a few other states are fighting back.

The EPA will totally cripple the economy for the global warming hoax.

Abolish the EPA, FCC etc.

That is another reason that socialism/government doesn’t work.Government doesn’t do things for efficiency, economy nor to try to cure real problems. Government does things for political reasons like this global warming BS.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 6:16:41 PM PST by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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