Posted on 12/16/2010 9:04:24 PM PST by ExtremePatriot
Oh, bullcrap! Go read some of the early threads on Lakin from this past March when he publicly made his intentions known but before he foolishly acted upon them. There's quite a few people here who understand exactly how these proceedings worked, understood this would never be an avenue for discovery of Obama's birth certificate and predicted with great accuracy this exact outcome.
Lakin should've listened to these folks. Instead, he listened to a group of people spouting a bunch of internet conspiracy nonsense. Look where it got him.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2643882/posts
The Miscalculations and Isolation of Lt Col Lakin
The Conservative Monster ^ | 12-16-10 | Steve Cooper
I believe that LTC Lakin suspected that his You Tube video about Obama being ineligible would unite the country to demand that Obama release all of his records and prove that he is a natural born citizen. This did not happen due to several reasons.
The media manipulation and blackout on LTC Lakin’s refusal to go to Afghanistan unless Obama proved he was eligible to be president, but most importantly the Fox News and conservative talk radio blackout. Sure Michael Savage mentioned eligibility a few times, but the power of Fox News was needed to make the Obama eligibility issue grow. Mentioning Lakin for 30 seconds like Brett Baier was just not enough play to the national audience.
Glenn Beck’s ridiculing of the birther movement (the leader of the Anti-Birther movement) also scared many Tea Party people away from the issue. I can not tell you how many times people e-mailed me that they know and believe that Obama is not eligible, but they were afraid to be labeled as “crazy”. You can thank Glenn Beck for this, because these Americans did not want to go against Beck’s wishes to support the Obama Eligibility movement.
Maybe Boehner should bring Nazi Pelozi up on ethics charges for signing two forms (one for Hawaii and one for the rest of the states) certifying Obama’s eligibility.
If the voters had asked questions, the media would've demanded answers. The voters didn't ask questions, the media didn't demand answers, Obama didn't volunteer information and 69 million Americans voted for him anyways.
Blame these people.
To several of your points:
1) Rino. I am certainly not a Republican (ok - so i need to change my registration to make this true). I am a fiscal conservative which the Republican party has not been for over 20 years.
2) You have the liberal disease of confusing effort with results. A bunch of effort that achieves no results is called failure. You sir are failing.
3) As to getting satisfaction, you will get no satisfaction on this endeavor.
He is a hero and I predict he will be vindicated in the future. And I hope he is able to then sue the pants off of everyone involved who obstructed justice. And then I hope he writes a book about it and makes millions. And I hope he will be laughing his head off while he is free and rich, and Zero is impeached and in jail. Well, I predict that everything except the last sentence will come true.
“Glenn Beck’s ridiculing of the birther movement (the leader of the Anti-Birther movement) also scared many Tea Party people away from the issue. I can not tell you how many times people e-mailed me that they know and believe that Obama is not eligible, but they were afraid to be labeled as “crazy”. You can thank Glenn Beck for this, because these Americans did not want to go against Beck’s wishes to support the Obama Eligibility movement”.
Glenn Beck IS NOT what he portray’s himself to be...just my gut feeling.
I’m a voter and I asked.
Why will Obama not release his records if he has nothing to hide? The electronic record he posted supposedly has all the information that is on the long form ,i.e. the orginal birth certificate. Why would he hold this back unless the electronic document does not say what the original form says?
Many confuse knowing/fact with suspicion/desire. This confusion leads many to ‘know’ that the WTC terror attack was perpetrated by the US and others to ‘know’ that Obama was not born in the US.
Have a goodnight - I have enjoyed the discussion!
Why will Obama not release his records if he has nothing to hide? The electronic record he posted supposedly has all the information that is on the long form ,i.e. the original birth certificate. Why would he hold this back unless the electronic document does not say what the original form says?
Could it possibly be a political decision to allow a small segment of the opposition to embarrass the larger movement overall???
Unfortunately, you were outnumbered by 69 million other voters who didn't care, didn't want to know and treated a presidential election with as much seriousness and importance as a season of American Idol.
Judge Lind ruled that whether or not a Constitutionally-valid President ever approved the use of force (as required by Article 90, Article 92, the Authorization for the Use of Force, and the statute giving the SecDef the authority to implement combat orders from the President) is IRRELEVANT to the lawfulness of combat deployment orders.
Did you catch that? If a brigade commander were to order combat troops to Iran today, Lind would say it is IRRELEVANT that no valid Presidential authorization was made for combat operations in Iran. Even though two punitive articles and two actual laws say otherwise.
Checking on the qualifications of somebody who issues a speeding ticket is one thing. Checking the qualifications of somebody who can tell our troops to go make Ahmadinejad’s day is a totally different thing. At least the laws and punitive articles recognize it as different, because they say that orders are not lawful if they don’t have valid legal authorization, which for combat orders is required to come only at the President’s approval.
If “the President” cannot Constitutionally “act as President” there is a legal problem with the line of authorization and it renders the orders down the chain of command unlawful, according to the punitive articles 90 and 92.
To blow off those 4 legal citations in order to make combat totally independent of “the President” is a serious, revolutionary thing.
Crimes have been committed to allow this fraud. Anybody who thinks badly of someone because they fight for the rule of law needs to go live in Iran or Mexico for a while.
To blow off those 4 legal citations in order to make combat totally independent of “the President” is a serious, revolutionary thing.
***You’ve made your point well. And I see you’ve been getting guff for it, even from JimRob. Sometimes, that’s how you know you’re a true conservative, when you find yourself in that rarefied atmosphere. When the history of this republic is written, it will be a Rubicon moment when this story of eligibility is handled.
The Hawaii DOH has made a statutory admission that Obama’s BC is amended, which means (according to HRS 338-17) that it is not legally valid. Hawaii has no legally valid BC for Obama.
In addition to that, because that amendment would have to be noted on a genuine COLB the HDOH printed out but isn’t printed on the COLB’s on Factcheck or Obama’s own campaign website, the HDOH knows that Factcheck and Fight the Smears COLB’s are both forgeries.
They have actually also indirectly confirmed Factcheck as a forgery in 2 other ways as well:
1) by confirming that the BC# was given by the HDOH on the “date filed” they show that the Factcheck BC# should not be higher (later) than the Nordyke twins’ BC#’s since the Factcheck BC was supposedly filed/given a number 3 days earlier.
2) by finally disclosing an image of the genuine HDOH seal they have shown that what is on Factcheck is not genuine, since they don’t match.
In spite of the fact that the HDOH knows Factcheck is a forgery, the HDOH has spoken positively about the Factcheck COLB, has made deceptive comments implying that they have a LEGALLY-VALID BC for Obama when they don’t, and have failed to correct news reports which misreported what their carefully-worded statements actually meant (which is a violation of the Federal General False Statement Act).
In addition, they have broken multiple rules and laws, including Fukino illegally hiding the HDOH Administrative Rules until a year after the election. Those rules reveal that a non-certified COLB for Obama can (and must, because of UIPA) be disclosed to anybody who asks for it. But the HDOH tells everybody they CAN’T disclose it - a false statement, as admitted by Alfred Itamura of the Ombudsman’s Office.
Hawaii law also requires the public disclosure of all records that Fukino relied upon when she made her statement about Obama’s “vital records”. IOW, everything they have in Hawaii for Obama is now REQUIRED to be made public at anyone’s request. The HDOH refuses.
Did you catch that? Everything Lakin has asked for is REQUIRED to be disclosed by the HDOH, but they refuse.
I could go through a very long laundry list of rules and laws the HDOH has broken to cover for Obama. You can see some of that at my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com if you follow the links.
And the HDOH is one of the 4 government agencies which has either perpetrated or enabled forgeries or falsification of the official records for Obama - the others being the Department of State (Obama’s passport records cleaned up in early 2008), the Passport Office (which strongly appears to have forged a DOS cable saying that passport applications were destroyed even though the legally-required paper trail for such a destruction and change in retention periods doesn’t exist), and the Selective Service Administration (which forged the SS Registration for Obama, as evidenced by an automatic date stamp which shows a year of “08” rather than “80”.
So that’s just the BEGINNING of the story: Hawaii has no legally valid BC for Obama since his BC is amended, and the HDOH has been covering up that fact and the fact that Factcheck is a forgery, although they have indirectly confirmed that in 3 different ways now. In addition, they are refusing to disclose records for Obama that are required to be disclosed.
Conspiracy? You tell me.
Absolutely. She knew that the Hawaii Democratic Party was refusing to verify Obama’s eligibility.
So eager was the Hawaii Democratic Party to get the eligibility language off of their certification that they took out one whole line of print, including the only language required by Hawaii law for them to include (the language saying that Obama/Biden were the candidates specifically of the Hawaii Democratic Party). NOT something they would have done if the legal requirements were being carefully considered.
Because Pelosi knew the HDP refused to certify Constitutional eligibility, she should have had a STRONG feeling that something was wrong. This also destroys the excuse Pelosi would try to use - that the state parties are supposed to vet the candidates and the DNC just trusts whatever they come up with. The HDP raised huge red flags, and Pelosi went ahead and swore that Obama was Constitutionally eligible anyway.
And the HDOH has confirmed that neither Pelosi nor the leaders of the DNC or HDP ever even asked to see Obama’s documentation or to receive verification of his birth facts. So when she signed that oath she was pulling it out of her rear, not based on anything legal.
ABSOLUTELY Pelosi should be investigated and charged with perjury.
And that’s one reason why this issue matters. SO MANY CRIMES have been committed to cover this whole fraud. The rule of law is nonexistent in Hawaii and Washington DC for sure, and the lawlessness spreads farther and deeper the longer we leave it unchecked.
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