Posted on 12/05/2010 10:41:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Assange is considered a hero. He’s making millions of dollars smoking pot at private parties with celebrites.
Think about that while you’re job hunting. :)
Can someone help me? I was under the impression that Assagehole was only releasing them in small doses. I don't think anywhere near a quarter of a million are in circulation yet? Am I right?
This Nile Gardiner character has a G-d complex.
There is no reasonable way to shutdown the Wikileaks information flow.
Outside of a meteor destroying the planet, ICANN forcibly blackholing the entire internet and root DNS servers, or a series of thousands of EMP bombs over every possible location of a server with mirrored copies of the leaked files... it ain’t gonna happen.
Beyond shutting the leak, there is no reasonable way to impede the dissemination of the information contained within, and there is no reasonable way to prevent reactions from all parties on the planet.
Obama has to stand up and say “This is the prerogative of the Imperial Military, Financial, Industrial and Diplomatic Portfolios of the United States of America, and you will submit to said conditions.”
There is no going back...
NO way forward to repair and replenish the Republic until we’ve hit the lowest trough in the aftermath... we sure are not there yet.
Going forward, the MSM media, moneyed elite, think tanks, NGOs, politicians bureaucrats and do gooders and swindlers alike, despised by right thinking people the world over, will look even more the fools when they openly spout off the ridiculous agitation and propaganda we’ve suffered through for the last century... that is a good thing.
Lastly he is not the first black president and we still have not had a black president. Obama is only fart colored and is of mixed races and does not qualify as a completely black person. Like i said he is fart colored.
In their pretty pink new uniforms with the sequins and the gold lame?
“Obama needs to get serious about WikiLeaks “
Obama has not the sligest idea what’s going on. He is too engrossed with his agenda to redistribute our wealth worldwide.
he didn’t get serious about the oil spill, this leaks thing has been up his sleeve for awhile I bet
“Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it’s an opportunity to do things you couldn’t do before.”
2DVet, your comment is prescient if not a little shortsighted. I don’t venerate Assange by any means, but I believe his work has uncovered an enormous issue with our political dealings: a lack of decorum. Used to be back in the day that these sort of comments were reserved for smoky back rooms and horse-drawn carriages. Nowadays we use technologies to communicate around the world, but there’s no guarantee of safety or privacy, regardless of the protocols and policies put in place.
Assange should be strung up by his gonads for what he’s done, but I believe it’s important to learn several lessons from this episode. First and foremost, even our most secure secrets can be compromised by a Leftist military infiltrator and his globalist billionaire handlers. Second, there needs to be a return to global civility in conversations. I don’t mean private conversations, but the global view of America should be one of an upright and trustworthy partner even if we’re chastising governments behind closed doors. And finally, we need to invest in our network and security infrastructures to ensure this sort of stuff doesn’t happen. If multi-billion dollar corporations can keep their trade secrets under wraps with investment, then our government should be doing twice as much to secure its data than even the most prominent global corporation.
These were the “smokey back room” comments.
There was an excellent article in the WSJ this morning that analyzed Assange as a Unabomber-style anarchist and said that his objective is actually to shut down or restrict the circulation of information because he knows that the US, like any large entity, needs to be able to circulate information in order to function efficiently. He has specifically declared this himself in some of his manifestos.
He regards the US as the source of all evil, a technological, structured society that destroys the "authentic" and "natural" societies of the Third World, and he feels that the way to bring it down is to hamstring it through lack of information to such an extent that it can no longer function.
The State Dept, the Defense Dept. and others have already responded by shutting down some of their internal information sources and even by prohibiting their employees from viewing outside information sources. So I'd say he's carrying out his plan pretty well.
He and Obama are actually on the same side. As Dinesh D'Souza pointed out, Obama is the last of the anti-colonialists, someone who sees himself as the Third World Avenger, come to strike at the Great Satan from within; and Assange is exactly the same. Assange's only criticism of Obama is that he did nothing overt to oppose the normal functioning of US information gathering or exchange.
People here who see Assange as doing anything positive are absolutely deluded. His whole scheme is an attempt to shut down information, and he is being quite successful at it. Obama is saying nothing precisely because he has the same goals as Assange. (Both of them, btw, see the UN as the only legitimate power in the world.)
Yes, but the smoky back room I’m referring to has no recording devices or hard disk drives retaining the data. The whole point to the “smoky back room” of old is that diplomats and politicians could bitch about their day-to-day without fear of reprisal.
Nowadays, I fear for any and everything that goes through equipment with a hard disk. Everything we say and do is recorded somehow, and I believe that’s our failing in this issue.
I agree that these comments were deserving of a smoky back room, but they were not retained as confidential and implicate people who likely had every confidence that their communications would remain classified.
The thing is that there is really nothing in these “indecorous” conversations that all the parties probably didn’t know about to begin with; all of this amounts to the level of gossip. And even in the horse-drawn carriages, there was usually a minor functionary around who was all too happy to leak frank comments about rivals, stir the pot with innuendo, etc.
However, modern life means that we spend little time in horse-drawn carriages jaunting acros the Continent to see Napoleon, but instead because of lack of proximity must exchange our opinions via technological means. What Assange is trying to do is shut down the equivalent of the carriage conversations in order to make us fearful and limit our capacity to exchange information internally.
He himself has said this. He expects us to react - as we have - by limiting information and restricting the use of the internet. He is achieving his goal, and believe me, it’s not to instill decorum in diplomatic conversations.
BTW, his new release of the list of all critical US installations at home or abroad makes his real goal pretty clear.
The reality is that information on all levels, personal or strategic, travels and is preserved through technology, and he is trying to bring it to a standstill. Obama is cooperating.
Well-stated Liv. Just because the days of the horse-drawn carriage are gone doesn’t mean we don’t have the opportunity to speak frankly in private without fear of reprisal. A ne’er-do-well functionary could be dispatched with a well-placed musket ball, but a hard disk drive and encrypted file with a 256-character password is going to propagate around the world like smallpox and will haunt those it targets through their days. This is blackmail, plain and simple.
That being said, I agree with you and am deeply saddened that we’re watching the demise of the United States due to a death cult called Islam and a self-hating billionaire Jew’s money.
The only difference between now and then was that pre-Internet, diplomatic communications were transmitted by couriers who physically brought documents in “pouches”.
The same stuff was said and done, it just is cached and easier to access now.
We really should go back to the physical procedures for incredibly sensitive stuff. Most of the excerpts I have seen from this latest release are pretty gossipy.
With all that, Assange is a class A Assange-hole!
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