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John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas 47 years ago today
The Boston Globe ^ | November 22, 2010 | Globe Staff

Posted on 11/22/2010 11:52:57 AM PST by EveningStar

Forty-seven years ago today, President John F. Kennedy was shot and killed while riding in a motorcade through Dallas with his wife, Jacqueline, and Texas officials.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: backandtotheleft; dallas; jfk; johnfkennedy; kennedyassassination
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To: EveningStar
JFK was “a venereal-disease-ridden sexual profligate and drug addict.” - Ann Coulter.

Nailed it!

41 posted on 11/22/2010 1:18:43 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ScottinVA

Have to wonder what the motivation might be in defending a federal cover-up and insisting those who have argued factually against the government’s conclusions are nothing but conspiracy theorists. The Warren Commission Report selectively omitted ballistics and trajectory and timing evidence, which, had it been considered, would have immediately eliminated Oswald as the assassin. As I have indicated in my post. Ballistics testing and trajectories don’t get “disproven”. The minimum time it takes to reload a specific rifle and fire it twice can be measured. This was tested hundreds of times by marksmen with more ability and time to practice than Oswald had. None of them were able to fire two shots with as little time elapsed between the two as occurred in Dallas that day. The two shots could not have come from the same rifle fired by the same assassin. This is only one contradiction among others such as trajectory and entrance wound location. Facts don’t lie. Commissions and governments do.


42 posted on 11/22/2010 1:25:46 PM PST by 4Runner
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To: EveningStar
I wasn't born then, but I've handled a rifle like the murder weapon, and I don't think there's any way he made that shot with that piece-of-crap Carcano. Maybe he was supposed to have made the shot, but he waited too long or something, but I believe there were other snipers.

And the ballistics analysis? BAH! Any rifle shooter knows that bullet fragment analysis is nearly irrelevant for a projectile traveling over 2000 feet per second out of the muzzle. If they found intact bullets at the scene, they were planted.

43 posted on 11/22/2010 1:30:24 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Yaelle
“What did you think of the Double Cross book/hypothesis?”

Actually, that is one of several books that lead to my conclusion. That and the fact the FBI has wiretaps of Mafia heads, plotting revenge against Joe Kennedy where one of them remarks, “he'd old, you want to hurt him, take away the thing he's always wanted.”

Being President, and then later having one of his kids be President, was his life long dream. The guys that ran the Mafia back then lived by the feud. You cross them, they will get revenge.

44 posted on 11/22/2010 1:31:28 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: EveningStar
I was in Dallas last December. I wasn't a fan of Kennedy but I recognize the historical significance of what occurred there.


45 posted on 11/22/2010 1:33:28 PM PST by South40 (My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kickboxing!)
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To: 4Runner
Man, that post stunk before I even finished reading it.

Ballistics and trajectory all fall within the performance characteristics of the Carcano. The low recoil and inherent accuracy of the cartride lend itself to an easy ability to hit a target repeatedly without changing positions.

Kennedy was shot at 270 FEET, not yards, not from the sewer, not from the Grassy Knoll and not from the Dal-Tex building.
He was shot at three times, and hit twice. All by Oswald alone.

Walk Dealey Plaza sometime. The distance is small and the zone is barely 100 yards in length.

With all the conspiracy books written and all the people that would have to be involved, SOMEONE, ANYONE, having anything to do with it would have come forward by now. Deathbed confessions, memoirs, letters, notes, SOMETHING.

But all the conspiracy theorists disagree or leave a critical factor out or miss something entirely, or create something to explain the obvious in other terms. The biggest mistake is the position of Connaly to Kennedy. Connaly sits INBOARD on the jumpseat in front of Kennedy, not directly in front as the conspirists say. That one fact alone dispells all the second gunman theories.

Besides the assassination is not about Kennedy, it's about OSWALD. Follow that trail and there is no other conclusion based on the evidence. Oswald from the TSBD with 2 of 3 shots.

46 posted on 11/22/2010 1:34:15 PM PST by Wizdum
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To: Steely Tom
I remember train tracks on TV, hour upon hour, the next day. My favorite TV shows were preempted.

JFK's body went home via Air Force One.

I think it was five years later when Bobby's body did the cross country train ride.

47 posted on 11/22/2010 1:37:56 PM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: Wizdum

Gunny Hartman said it best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKpTYZoQ94Q&NR=1


48 posted on 11/22/2010 1:40:17 PM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: carpediem365

So did Aldous Huxley.


49 posted on 11/22/2010 1:45:49 PM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: PalmettoMason
JFK's body went home via Air Force One.

I think it was five years later when Bobby's body did the cross country train ride.

Thanks for correcting me. Those are long-ago memories, and are kind of conflated in my mind, I suppose. They're kind of all in what might be called my "disaster folder" of childhood, which also includes a bunch of men standing on a hotel room balcony pointing at a point above them and and in the distance, an image of Bobby Kennedy looking at the ceiling, and the voice of Jim McKay saying "they're all gone."

50 posted on 11/22/2010 1:46:49 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: EveningStar

Just wondering, how much moola does Google have to make fore it is deemed a total failure.


51 posted on 11/22/2010 2:05:01 PM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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To: magellan
JFK, for all his personal flaws, was the last anti-Communist, pro-defense Democrat President. He also believed tax cuts would stimulate the economy.

O'rilly? my dad helped train some Cubans in Florida only to see them get chopped up when Kennedy decided he'd cut them loose. When he was shot I remember him telling my mom, "so what. "

My mother was shocked but he just said the Kennedy got everything he deserved. I didn't understand it at the time but we talked about it when we were both older.

He didn't think much of any of the Kennedys which drove some of our extended family a little crazy, cause we're Roman Catholic. I tend to agree with my father, didn't affect me except to get LBJ elected and the communist in the democrat party to head us down the path we're on today.

The real tragedy is that CS Lewis died on this day and THAT was a tragedy.

52 posted on 11/22/2010 2:33:32 PM PST by Dick Vomer (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: Waco

What does Google have to do with this?


53 posted on 11/22/2010 2:39:13 PM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“What if he would have survived? The Cold War and Vietnam for starters, would have looked differently.”

I don’t think that they would have. Kennedy was the one that got us into Vietnam. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon were just following in Truman’s foot steps with the Korean cluster f***. The whole idea of containment is a guaranteed looser and that’s just what happened.

Kennedy almost got us nuked on his screw up with the Cuban missile crisis so you may be right there, we may have actually turned the cold war into a hot nuclear war if Kennedy had survived and continued to mess up like he did with Cuba so maybe it was a blessing that he got shot.

Who knows if things would have been different but I think that it does not matter too much who is in office because they all seem to promote (more or less) the same policies. Just look at Bush Jr versus Obama, not much has changed in most of our foreign policy, we’re still the Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush gave us an unbelievable (and unaffordable) increase in medicare with drug benefits and Obama has given us another unaffordable mess with Obama care. The names may change but that’s about it.


54 posted on 11/22/2010 2:50:18 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: Steely Tom
I know what you mean. So many assassinations over such a relatively short time can be confusing.

I remember watching JFK's casket being unloaded from AF-1 on live tv, though. I also remember what seemed like endless days of coverage of nothing but train tracks when Bobby died, and MLK's casket in an old farm wagon.

55 posted on 11/22/2010 3:16:54 PM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Didn't Oswald himself state he was a patsy? I would be surprised if he had anything at all to do with the actual shooting.Too many unanswered questions with the lone nut idea put forth.
56 posted on 11/22/2010 4:09:50 PM PST by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: 4Runner
Oswald . . . could not have fired the two shots because the time elapsed between the shots did not provide anyone, much less Oswald, the chance to reload and re-fire the kind of rifle found in the TSBD and attributed to Oswald as the weapon used in the assassination.

With all due respect, put down the bong. Oswald's Carcano M91/38 is bolt-action rifle with a six-round magazine. It wasn't a single-shot rifle. The Carcano wasn't as imprecise a weapon as the conspiracy theorists would have you believe. The FBI's testing of Oswald's rifle consistently put three shots in a three- to five-inch circle from 100 yards, and Oswald was shooting at about sixty yards, if I remember correctly.

Also, current analysis of the Zapruder film place the three shots as occurring over the span of 8.3 seconds. In other words, aim . . . BANG . . . and then four seconds to work the bolt, ejecting the spent cartridge, which automatically loaded another, aiming, and firing again, and four seconds to repeat the action.

Four seconds is a long time for an ex-Marine who twice earned a rating of sharpshooter (48 and 49 bulls-eyes out of fifty in rapid-fire shooting at 200 yards with an M-1 Garand). In a 1967 test of 11 shooters, the average time to aim and fire three shots with a Carcano rifle like Oswald's, WITH NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE except to work the bolt, was about 5.6 seconds. The attorneys for the House Committee on Assassinations were able to work the bolt and fire two shots with Oswald's Carcano in under 1.5 seconds.

The arguments about Oswald not being a good marksman are nonsense. The argument that his rifle was not accurate are nonsense. The argument that there was insufficient time to fire three shots are nonsense.

57 posted on 11/22/2010 4:12:45 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: hwkbeer
Too many unanswered questions with the lone nut idea put forth.

Only for people too lazy or stupid to do the research. Did you read all twenty six volumes of evidence?

58 posted on 11/22/2010 4:27:31 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Sure didn’t read all 26 volumes.How about you?


59 posted on 11/22/2010 5:26:33 PM PST by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: magellan
Right on, the last "Democrat POTUS" that wasn't a straight up com symp.

RIP

60 posted on 11/22/2010 5:29:49 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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