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Search on for military jet missing over Alaska (F-22... "dropped off the radar.")
MSNBC ^ | 11/17/2010 | NBC News/News Services

Posted on 11/17/2010 8:59:29 AM PST by AnnaZ



ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Search and rescue teams are looking for a U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor and its pilot that went missing during a flight over Alaska late Tuesday, military officials told NBC News.

The officials said the advanced stealth fighter jet was about 90 miles northeast of Elmendorf Air Force Base when it "dropped off the radar."

There was no mayday or any other communication from the pilot that would have indicated the plane was in trouble, the officials told NBC News. There have been no distress calls from the pilot since the plane went missing.

U.S. military helicopters and at least one C-130 have so far failed to turn up any sign of the missing fighter jet, according to NBC News.

Base spokeswoman Corinna Jones told The Associated Press Tuesday night that the pilot was the only person in the craft, which was on a training mission. Air traffic control lost contact with the jet at 7:40 p.m. Alaska time, she added.

Jones declined to identify the pilot, but noted the aircraft is assigned to Elmendorf's 3rd Wing.

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To: Jewbacca

That’s a pretty cynical assumption to make about our Air Force pilots.

I think I’ll wait to hear if the pilot survived, and is hopefully rescued, before I start making jokes or accusations of treason.


41 posted on 11/17/2010 10:06:47 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: All

bump


42 posted on 11/17/2010 10:06:49 AM PST by Toadman ((To Piss of a Conservative - Tell a Lie. To Piss off a Liberal - Tell the Truth))
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To: fso301
Then again, how was ATC radar able to track the $200 million stealth fighter?

The planes have transponders that make them show up very well during training operations.

43 posted on 11/17/2010 10:07:21 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: AnnaZ

Directed energy weapon?


44 posted on 11/17/2010 10:16:31 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: AnnaZ
Prayers for the pilot. Hopefully he's made of the same stuff as Leon Crane.
45 posted on 11/17/2010 10:17:07 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AnnaZ

Sun is now ‘up’ (0915) and just heard a C-130 launch.

It would seem the USAF is still looking.

I hope the pilot got out in time....


46 posted on 11/17/2010 10:29:07 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

They are not invisible to radar, just hard to see.


47 posted on 11/17/2010 10:29:23 AM PST by Diggity
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To: AnnaZ
This type of aircraft loss, when the aircraft drops off the radar screen ... can be due to pilot vertigo. A pilot becomes so disoriented he flies the aircraft into the ground, usually vertically.
48 posted on 11/17/2010 10:29:53 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Jewbacca

Even if he had 1000 miles worth of fuel aboard, he could not have left North American controlled airspace.

From a publically available fact sheet:
Fuel Capacity: Internal: 18,000 pounds (8,200 kilograms); with 2 external wing fuel tanks: 26,000 pounds (11,900 kilograms)
Payload: Same as armament air-to-air or air-to-ground loadouts; with or without 2 external wing fuel tanks.
Speed: Mach 2 class with supercruise capability
Range: More than 1,850 miles ferry range with 2 external wing fuel tanks (1,600 nautical miles)

Notice that the ferry range includes external tanks in order to get 1850 miles out. On internal fuel, he *MIGHT* get 1200 miles.

Look at a map and tell me where there is a land-based airport in unfriendly territory the plane could get to with ferry tanks, which I sincerely doubt would be mounted on a training flight.

The Russians and the Chinese don’t have an in-service carrier capable of catching this bird.

Unfortunately, the odds are that this brave man is dead and the bird is broken beyond repair.


49 posted on 11/17/2010 10:31:17 AM PST by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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To: Salvavida
Directed energy weapon?

Cloud full of rocks.

50 posted on 11/17/2010 10:32:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Diggity
Having worked in the EW community I'm well aware of that, tiger.

I'm also well aware of the "stealth is invisible to RADAR" kool aid that the Air Force has been peddling to the gullible masses for the past three decades.

51 posted on 11/17/2010 10:36:49 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: AnnaZ

What was a Raptor doing on radar? Hate stories like this.

1. We’ve developed radar that tracks stealth tech.
2. We lost the plane’s transponder blip of the radar screen
3. We lost radio comms with the plane.

Some of the above are true. Not all of the above should be published in a news story.

Job of the journalist - Which of these are true?


52 posted on 11/17/2010 11:00:02 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: AnnaZ
A "tin-foil" possibility...Leonid meteor shower. Perhaps it had the misfortune to get hit. F-22 should have some satellite com capability aboard. If that isn't working, it is probably in pieces somewhere.
53 posted on 11/17/2010 11:27:37 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: AnnaZ

look up Craig David Button, stuff happens


54 posted on 11/17/2010 11:31:32 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: AnnaZ
Louis A’Mour’s “The Last Of The Breed”?
55 posted on 11/17/2010 11:53:40 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: AnnaZ
Louis L'Amour’s “The Last Of The Breed”?
56 posted on 11/17/2010 11:55:01 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: fso301
Then again, how was ATC radar able to track the $200 million stealth fighter?

ATC radar works off transponders in the aircraft. The aircraft has to deliberately "want" to be seen.

57 posted on 11/17/2010 12:04:05 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: AnnaZ

It would be very odd indeed if wreckage is found but is so “vaporized” no clues will be found as to why.

I have a feeling we will never know the truth here, no matter who says what, just like a missile/contrail thread.

The last incident we had up here was a C-17 that crashed on takeoff, the pilot was attempting a maneuver for the upcoming Air Show, and some thing went wrong.

Usually I see two pairs of jets at a time, you hear them all the time up here, you get the lead aircraft and his wingman, then you get another pair a couple miles behind them, its kinda unusual to hear of just a solo jet up and about.


58 posted on 11/17/2010 12:07:29 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: AnnaZ

I am seeing a black hole newswise on this, my curiosity has me wondering why.

Could this possibly even at the most extreme possibility be something more than a simple diaspearance?


59 posted on 11/17/2010 12:36:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Ramius; ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

“That’s a pretty cynical assumption to make about our Air Force pilots.”

You might want to check my own Post 23 on this thread before being offended.


60 posted on 11/17/2010 12:41:50 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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