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MSNBC's Ratigan, cartoonist Ted Rall hints at violent revolution
examiner.com ^ | 11/9/10 | Joe Newby

Posted on 11/09/2010 9:07:21 PM PST by Tom Hawks

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On Monday, MSNBC host Dylan Ratigan seemed to suggest the time may be right for violent revolution in the United States.

While interviewing liberal cartoonist Ted Rall, the host appeared to support the idea. Lachlan Markay of Newsbusters quoted the host:

"Are things in our country so bad that it might actually be time for a revolution?" Ratigan asked. "The answer obviously is yes," he added, and "the only question is how to do it."

Rall was promoting his book, "The Anti-American Manifesto", where he calls for violent revolution. Ed Morrissey of Hot Air posted an excerpt from the book:

We are here because the U.S. is going to end soon. There’s going to be an intense, violent, probably haphazard struggle for control. It’s going to come down to us versus them. The question is: What are you going to do about it?…

Christian fundamentalists, the millennial end-of-theworlders obsessed with the Left Behind series about the End Times, neo-Nazi racists, rural black-helicopter Michigan Militia types cut from the same inbred cloth as Timothy McVeigh, allied with “mainstream” gun nuts and right-wing Republicans, have been planning, preparing, and praying for the destruction of the “Godless,” “secular” United States for decades. In the past, they formed groups like the John Birch Society and the Aryan Nations. Now the hard Right has a postmodern, decentralized non-organization organization called the Tea Party.

Right-wing organizational names change, but they amount to the same thing: the reactionary sociopolitical force—the sole force—poised to fill the vacuum when collapse occurs. The scenario outlined by Margaret Atwood’s prescient novel The Handmaid’s Tale—rednecks in the trenches, hard military men running things, minorities and liberals taken away and massacred, setting the stage for an even more extreme form of laissez-faire corporate capitalism than we’re suffering under today—is a fair guess of how a post-U.S. scenario will play out unless we prepare to turn it in another direction…

A war is coming. At stake: our lives, the planet, freedom, living. The government, the corporations, and the extreme right are prepared to coalesce into an Axis of Evil. Are you going to fight back? Will you do whatever it takes, including taking up arms?

From this excerpt, one gets the impression that Rall is calling for a civil war between liberals and conservatives - specifically the Tea Party, and he appears to openly call for liberals to take up arms against anyone on the right.

When Sharron Angle spoke of a "2nd Amendment solution" to the nation's problems, liberal media outlets like MSNBC went berserk. But Ratigan appeared to be okay with liberals taking to the streets in open, armed conflict.

In early October, Rall expressed support for a communist-style dictatorship in the United States in an interview with washingtoncitypaper.com.

In that interview, he said Thomas Jefferson was the American leader he admired the most. However, the man who helped create America's founding documents would probably not support a communist dictatorship.

In the interview with Ratigan, Rall ironically quoted John Locke; "It's up to the people. John Locke said, the people have an obligation to revolt when their government's fails.

Markay noted the irony:

That's right, Rall quoted the philosopher arguably most influential among American revolutionaries to suggest that another revolution would be justified. Gee, that sure sounds a lot like Tea Party protesters holding up signs demanding we "water the tree of liberty" - with the blood of patriots and tyrants, as Thomas Jefferson famously said.

Apparently, liberals calling for violent revolution and a Soviet-style communist dictatorship in the United States is okay with the hosts at MSNBC, but conservatives who want a return to Constitutional principles are radical.



TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communistlacky; examiner; tedrall
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This scumbag is exactly the kind of commie bastards we started taking down last Tuesday. Now we need to continue the job on through 2012 and take as many more of them down as possible.
1 posted on 11/09/2010 9:07:25 PM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

An provocative title and ridiculous premise used to sell books? You don’t say.


2 posted on 11/09/2010 9:09:48 PM PST by casuist (Audi alteram partem.)
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To: Tom Hawks

Oh nooooo sissies in revolt....too scary. LOL!


3 posted on 11/09/2010 9:09:52 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: Tom Hawks

I would love to see them bring it on. Anytime, liberal dreamers, anywhere.


4 posted on 11/09/2010 9:10:22 PM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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To: Tom Hawks

Gee, which side has the guns...?


5 posted on 11/09/2010 9:12:07 PM PST by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: Tom Hawks

Bring it on - The Right has ‘cornered the market’ in brass and lead ...


6 posted on 11/09/2010 9:12:20 PM PST by 11th_VA (Bush is gone, long live the Tea Party ....)
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To: casuist

Yea it reminds one of the way Al Franken used rush to sell a book.

This guy uses the phrase violent revolution as if his wimpy libs ever would have a chance.

Don’t you need to own a gun to shoot and overthrow someone violently?

Well, they don’t believe in violence or guns. Maybe they will send out the dikes on bikes against us.


7 posted on 11/09/2010 9:13:01 PM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

Has the SPLC come out with a terrorist profile on these guys and MSNBC yet? Probably they would only be considered terrorist if they promoted the Constitution.


8 posted on 11/09/2010 9:13:44 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Tom Hawks
Cool.

Let's rock!

9 posted on 11/09/2010 9:13:57 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Tom Hawks

What a metrosexual weenie this guy is.

If the guy was given a gun for his so-called “revolution” he’d probably wind up shooting himself


10 posted on 11/09/2010 9:15:45 PM PST by PGR88
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To: HerrBlucher

“Oh nooooo sissies in revolt....too scary. LOL!”

LOL the very IDEA of liberals with guns, they wouldn’t know which end the bullets come out of!


11 posted on 11/09/2010 9:20:19 PM PST by Frank_2001
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If the guy was given a gun for his so-called “revolution” he’d probably wind up shooting himself

Assuming he knew how to disengage the safety catch.
12 posted on 11/09/2010 9:20:26 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Tom Hawks
Never forget the sorry episode when Ratigan went nuts when interviewing a Tea Party representative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eP6G410Z8Y

13 posted on 11/09/2010 9:24:50 PM PST by arista
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To: Army Air Corps

The left will team up with their political alliances - Muslims and the Mexican drug cartel if they want to do revolution here. The Black Panthers won’t help much. They are clowns.


14 posted on 11/09/2010 9:25:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Tom Hawks
Maybe they will send out the dikes on bikes against us.


15 posted on 11/09/2010 9:25:13 PM PST by Amos McCoy (I am, The Real McCoy!)
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To: Tom Hawks

There’s a problem: Conservatives own most of the guns.


16 posted on 11/09/2010 9:25:15 PM PST by wastedyears (The only good unemployment statistic in America is the number of unemployed Dem officials.)
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Gee, which side has the guns...?

Right now the US military and millions of armed civilians. But didn't the anointed one say he wanted a private force stronger than the US military? But he might not get it in time for the revolution.

17 posted on 11/09/2010 9:25:40 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: arista

I forgot about that.

Thanks for reminding me.


18 posted on 11/09/2010 9:26:39 PM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
Rall is calling for a civil war between liberals and conservatives - specifically the Tea Party, and he appears to openly call for liberals to take up arms against anyone on the right.

The same guns his fellow pinkos want banned?

19 posted on 11/09/2010 9:30:42 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: freebilly
Gee, which side has the guns...? Actually, you might be surprised. I live in work in the People's Republic of the San Francisco Bay Area. In fact, many staunch left-wingers out here are actually gun owners (I know that I was surprised to learn this). I have been to a gun range near San Francisco a few times with a friend, and there were always plenty of people there practicing. Liberals that I know around here also tell me that many of their liberal friends own guns. A co-worker of mine, a liberal who lives in San Francisco, legally owns a few guns (one a 50 caliber Desert Eagle), practices with them, and knows how to use them. I am reasonably certain that he is not alone. So, don't get complacent listening to all of the granola crunching, anti-gun talk on the left. A lot of it seems to be just that: talk. If push ever comes to shove, we should not be surprised to find out that they are just as well (or better) armed than the Patriots in the Midwest whom they despise so much. Many in the anti-gun left are hypocrites (I am SHOCKED!!), and do not practice what they preach. Something to keep in mind.
20 posted on 11/09/2010 9:33:04 PM PST by Zetman
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