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Republicans trying to stop a Palin run for presidency ("Stop Palin Week" now at Warp 10)
Winnipeg Free Press ^
| 11-9-10
| Lee-Anne Goodman
Posted on 11/09/2010 5:51:12 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: factmart
>>> Coons said he would vote to keep Bush’s tax for rich and everyone! Do you Think he would have promised that if Casle-RINO was the candidate?
Unlike the worst of the O’Donnell cheerleaders, I cannot claim to know for certain what would have happened in a parallel future history track. (My favorite was the CERTAINITY that “Casle-RINO” would have immediately switched parties).
I do however again note my original comment. This was a certain Republican year. The failing economy would have still been the context in which Coon would have to campaign.
So maybe he wouldn’t have made this pledge if that’s what he actually said, or then again maybe the guy understands enough of economics to recognize now isn’t the time to raise taxes. I couldn’t definitively say which.
Bottom line however is Coon didn’t have to pander one iota. Not with such a hapless opponent on the ballot.
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posted on
11/09/2010 11:56:54 PM PST
by
tlb
To: KoRn
Oh pooh. They said the same things about Ronald Reagan. Don’t believe the lies from the media and libs. If you do, you’ll be voting for zero in 2012 yourself. That’s a disgusting proposition, doncha think?
I don’t care what the pundits or the beltway boys have to say. There is one with higher authority than any of them, and yes, HE does work in the affairs of nations. It’s Biblical.
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posted on
11/10/2010 12:14:49 AM PST
by
Catsrus
(Have)
To: KoRn
I believe shes the ONLY person 0bama CAN win against at this point. I agree with you. Don't worry about it. Whatever will be, will be.
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posted on
11/10/2010 2:20:27 AM PST
by
Huck
(Antifederalist BRUTUS should be required reading.)
To: TitansAFC; All
These people make me sick.
To any GOP RINO staff flunkie who may be reading this thread, I will say this here, and I will say this now:
If the GOP carries through on this strategy and somehow actually "stops" Sarah in favor of a Huck, Romney, Daniels, Pawlenty, or even Barbour, then I will not only stay home in 2012, but I will wreak as much havoc on the GOP on as many popular forums and blogs as I can using my little computer and keyboard.
You, GOP hacks, are on notice!
To: TitansAFC; Jim Robinson; holdonnow; suspects; SilvieWaldorfMD; onyx; Al B.; Lakeshark; RonDog; ...
To sum it up: Stop Sarah Palin Week is an organized effort, created by insiders, propagated by surrogates of other candidates and Establishment GOPers, spread in earnest by GOP members of the media, and picked-up by lefty blogs and organizations hoping to join the assassination attempt. The Journolisters were quick to take action as well. It is an all-out attempt to unload on Sarah Palin, relentlessly, for at least all of this week, using every means, medium, talking point, astroturfing tool, media outlet, and blog they can to try and inflict a mortal wound. They are hoping the sheer volume and consistency of their memes will be effective enough to plant enough seeds of doubt in everyones mind that they will stop considering Sarah Palin as an option for 2012. This week is a big test for them, because it is going to give them a measure of how much damage they can do with a 100% concerted effort and every weapon in the arsenal firing. Outstanding analysis of precisely what is going on right now!
To: KoRn
It almost looks like PA isnt winnable, given the previous 3 elections, so that leaves Ohio and Florida. I don't know what you're talking about since Pennsylvania just swung back right, with Republicans pretty much sweeping the board in most of the local elections, with Toomey taking the Senate spot and Corbett winning the governor's office.
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I called this the week before the election. It’s all too predictable what the entitled elitist GOP would do. And they can thank Karl Rove for playing his cards far too early. After the COD trashing, it became very clear who their real target was- Sarah Palin. Its just as easy to predict their next moves as it is to predict liberals.
To: TitansAFC
Even George W. Bush, the much-maligned former Republican president, has reportedly told associates that Palin is "unqualified" to be commander-in-chief,Something Bush has since refuted.
But liberal MSM pukes hate to see a useful lie wasted.
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posted on
11/10/2010 3:51:40 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: KoRn
"If she IS the nominee and wins, please come back to this thread and ridicule me in 11.2012. Ill happily take it..." Hey, why put off 'til tomorrow whom you can ridicule today? She already is the nominee in 2012, some slime-for-brains dolts just haven't figured it out yet. Like you. Oh, and my favorite line from your tortured-logic, backhanded, clumsily psuedo-polite, cowardly-phony assault on the new Commander in Kerchief?
"I like her. I really do!"
You simpering crack-sap. You sniveling puke-tard. If you're going to punch a woman, at least have the guts to admit that you punched a woman, okay? Scum like you would destroy this country if we let you. Lumps like you raise way too many kids, most of whom end up homo.
Had enough yet?
8^D
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posted on
11/10/2010 3:52:02 AM PST
by
Gargantua
("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
To: ari-freedom; One Name
"God chooses leaders. Sarah Palin has His annointing. You make the very best case possible for electing Sarah Palin when you say specifically that, One Name. Don't be dissuaded by the knee-jerk atheists, who run trembling in fear, or lash out like they were stung, at the mere mention of His Name.
In the grand scheme of things, they all just suck scabby monster hog anyway.
8^D
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posted on
11/10/2010 3:58:40 AM PST
by
Gargantua
("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
To: sonic109
"She does a lot of good for our side but I dont see her as president . Sorry..." True. You are.
;-\
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posted on
11/10/2010 4:00:02 AM PST
by
Gargantua
("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
To: sonic109
"So if someone dosent think Palin can win they are now cowards?" No. They're just homosexual.
8^D
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posted on
11/10/2010 4:01:29 AM PST
by
Gargantua
("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
To: dirtboy
BUSH STATED TO RUSH ON TUESDAY, “I DID NOT SAY THAT ABOUT PALIN... I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT ABOUT HER”.
LLS
To: TitansAFC; BlackElk; onyx
I don't know if you're asking a serious question or being sarcastic, but I'll answer anyway.
Thank you for your response. I wasn't exactly being sarcastic. I just don't find any effort with so few non-anonymous sources to be sufficiently strong to take her out.
Frankly, the efforts you describe, at least on the talk radio front, are laughable. If Rush is defending Sarah Palin, and blasting these efforts, and he is, that is like Palin having the iPod of the talk radio world, and Romney et al settling for the Zune, Rio, and homebrew geek players. Rush is the Harlem Globetrotters. The others are the Washington Generals (especially since Hannity and Levin won't play).
These folks are like Boris and Natasha, or Wile E. Coyote, they keep on going back for more of the same. No creativity. In doing this, they further galvinize Palin's support and risk a real split, with them getting the short end. Based on what you say, I think they are willing to throw away 2012, if that is what it takes to keep the Republican Party in the Bob Michel/Denny Hastert mold.
These clowns' real power would be if they can change the states' primary systems to weaken Palin. They might try to have more "open" primaries, which may backfire if Obama draws a primary opponent. (Reagan did EXTREMELY well in open primaries in '76) They may also try caucuses in big states with tight controls (Reagan would have won the nomination outright in '76 but for New York's and Pennsylvania's system at the time). Palin is going to need agents on the ground in many of these areas.
The other tactic the establishment would try would be to throw in faux primary opponents to draw votes away from Palin, while quietly agreeing to put their weight behind a single "stop-Palin" candidate. This was last done in '96, when a much weaker candidate, Pat Buchanan, won New Hampshire. Suddenly, Dole was the man. Better candidates like Gramm actually lost ground.
That won't work so easily this time, because Romney wants it, and he is too flawed to get it. Pawlenty would make more sense (he's generic), but he and Romney will only weaken each other. There's a reason that Palin says she likes full-throated, active primaries. Her brand is established.
In 1980, only one candidate out of a half-dozen challenged Reagan on the right, Phil Crane (other candidates: Bush the Elder, Baker, Anderson, Dole, Connolly). Before the NH primary, Loeb's paper made a special effort to attack Crane, and not bother so much with Bush the Elder, who had already won Iowa.
Palin really isn't all that far to the right. Even her self-descriptor, "Common Sense Conservative" means that she isn't going to be a hard ideologue. What she has become, however, is the anti-establishment candidate; she is sort of a right wing Eugene McCarthy, where the style is as important as the actual platform. Who can challenge her on that? Ron Paul? Alan Keyes? Donald Trump? None of these. Maybe DeMint, Pence or Bolton if Palin missteps badly. Palin starts with 25% wherever she goes. Romney starts with 10% Huckabee also 10%. All of the other candidates (Pawlenty, Daniels, Bolton, Perry, Barbour,Pence) start with 2%. DeMint maybe a touch more.
I could easily see a Palin/Bolton ticket.
Getting back to the original topic:
When one is threatened with strong but anonymous forces one has three options. One, acquiesce and be co-opted or go away. Two, quietly work behind the scenes with your own forces. Three, go as public as you possibly can, exposing the plan at every turn, so that if something should happen to you, the source will be known. Plan three only works if you have the ability to get your message out, and if enough people will believe you. The risk to such a plan is that there may be unforeseen collateral damage throughout the system. The upside is that it is the only way to put a permanent stop to these types of threats. Palin has opted for #3, and is executing brilliantly.
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posted on
11/10/2010 5:04:30 AM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
To: AFreeBird
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Yea, I think it needs to be sent to every GOP center at every level; local, state, federal.
To: Dr. Sivana
Thank you for a most interesting post.
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posted on
11/10/2010 7:17:33 AM PST
by
JPG
(The GOP leadership is on probation. No second chances. Don't blow it.)
To: tlb
You state.....
'This was a certain republican year. She cant be assigned all the credit.'
Then you state....'Im not persuaded she will run for president.But there is nothing wrong with being a kingmaker either.
Which is it?
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posted on
11/10/2010 8:33:20 AM PST
by
NoGrayZone
(This is not an election on November 2. This is a restraining order. - PJ O'Rourke)
To: NoGrayZone
Well since you ask so politely, it’s both. I stated she had influence. I questioned if she had such total influence that accounted for every race she spoke to.
Unless she blots her copybook badly, and I don’t think she will, she will retain that influence. Her endorsement will be valuable at the convention. As will others.
ok?
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posted on
11/10/2010 8:46:21 AM PST
by
tlb
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