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To: TitansAFC; BlackElk; onyx
I don't know if you're asking a serious question or being sarcastic, but I'll answer anyway.

Thank you for your response. I wasn't exactly being sarcastic. I just don't find any effort with so few non-anonymous sources to be sufficiently strong to take her out.

Frankly, the efforts you describe, at least on the talk radio front, are laughable. If Rush is defending Sarah Palin, and blasting these efforts, and he is, that is like Palin having the iPod of the talk radio world, and Romney et al settling for the Zune, Rio, and homebrew geek players. Rush is the Harlem Globetrotters. The others are the Washington Generals (especially since Hannity and Levin won't play).

These folks are like Boris and Natasha, or Wile E. Coyote, they keep on going back for more of the same. No creativity. In doing this, they further galvinize Palin's support and risk a real split, with them getting the short end. Based on what you say, I think they are willing to throw away 2012, if that is what it takes to keep the Republican Party in the Bob Michel/Denny Hastert mold.

These clowns' real power would be if they can change the states' primary systems to weaken Palin. They might try to have more "open" primaries, which may backfire if Obama draws a primary opponent. (Reagan did EXTREMELY well in open primaries in '76) They may also try caucuses in big states with tight controls (Reagan would have won the nomination outright in '76 but for New York's and Pennsylvania's system at the time). Palin is going to need agents on the ground in many of these areas.

The other tactic the establishment would try would be to throw in faux primary opponents to draw votes away from Palin, while quietly agreeing to put their weight behind a single "stop-Palin" candidate. This was last done in '96, when a much weaker candidate, Pat Buchanan, won New Hampshire. Suddenly, Dole was the man. Better candidates like Gramm actually lost ground.

That won't work so easily this time, because Romney wants it, and he is too flawed to get it. Pawlenty would make more sense (he's generic), but he and Romney will only weaken each other. There's a reason that Palin says she likes full-throated, active primaries. Her brand is established.

In 1980, only one candidate out of a half-dozen challenged Reagan on the right, Phil Crane (other candidates: Bush the Elder, Baker, Anderson, Dole, Connolly). Before the NH primary, Loeb's paper made a special effort to attack Crane, and not bother so much with Bush the Elder, who had already won Iowa.

Palin really isn't all that far to the right. Even her self-descriptor, "Common Sense Conservative" means that she isn't going to be a hard ideologue. What she has become, however, is the anti-establishment candidate; she is sort of a right wing Eugene McCarthy, where the style is as important as the actual platform. Who can challenge her on that? Ron Paul? Alan Keyes? Donald Trump? None of these. Maybe DeMint, Pence or Bolton if Palin missteps badly. Palin starts with 25% wherever she goes. Romney starts with 10% Huckabee also 10%. All of the other candidates (Pawlenty, Daniels, Bolton, Perry, Barbour,Pence) start with 2%. DeMint maybe a touch more.

I could easily see a Palin/Bolton ticket.

Getting back to the original topic:

When one is threatened with strong but anonymous forces one has three options. One, acquiesce and be co-opted or go away. Two, quietly work behind the scenes with your own forces. Three, go as public as you possibly can, exposing the plan at every turn, so that if something should happen to you, the source will be known. Plan three only works if you have the ability to get your message out, and if enough people will believe you. The risk to such a plan is that there may be unforeseen collateral damage throughout the system. The upside is that it is the only way to put a permanent stop to these types of threats. Palin has opted for #3, and is executing brilliantly.
134 posted on 11/10/2010 5:04:30 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Thank you for a most interesting post.


138 posted on 11/10/2010 7:17:33 AM PST by JPG (The GOP leadership is on probation. No second chances. Don't blow it.)
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To: Dr. Sivana; TitansAFC; Al B.; Virginia Ridgerunner

Sarah Palin is genuine and honest. She speaks her mind and knows precisely the patriotic, pro-life and Constitutional policies she stands for and what she wants to say.

She is fearless. Her enemies from the democrat side have fired at her since the day she was named to run as the VP, but now their guns are empty. They firing blanks that the public has heard before. No more shock, no more ‘yikes.’ Of course she will never change veryone’s minds, but she need only persuade a majority that she is better for the country than the Marxist.

I knew the GOP establishment was going to try to stop her when “it” didn’t step-up to defend her during the ‘08 campaign. Those folks had hopes that she would return to the governor’s office in Alaska, never to be heard from again.

Well, the democrat-Marxist machine wasn’t done with her. They had to make certain that she would never become the first woman president, so they continued their frivolous lawsuits allowed under Alaska law, until they had successfully racked-up over $500K worth of personal debt again her, and with that, they unleashed Sarah Cuda America... (God willing) #45.


145 posted on 11/10/2010 1:12:45 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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