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Difficult thoughts on the election

Posted on 11/04/2010 10:52:00 AM PDT by Conservative_Pragmatist

Hey gang-

I am new here. I was looking for Conservative boards to post on during the election and they just weren’t very good. Someone told me about this site so I figured I’d check it out.

I felt compelled to log-up after the Republicans took massive control of the US House this election.

Like most of you I was over-joyed when the Democrats got swept out of Congress. But we have seen how the tea leaves (pun intended) change. The last two cycles the Republicans got waxed, we were losing seats in strong Conservative areas. That cycle is now turned. We’ve picked up key seats in more Liberal areas like Mass, Illinois, Wisconsin, and here in Virginia a very popular Democrat (Boucher) was defeated. Never thought I’d see that, so the message is loud and clear, this nation DOES NOT want big government.

However, it’s easy to think the electorate in the center could swing right back to the other side if the Republicans fail to deliver. Or get this? Even if the Republicans DO deliver!

Personally, I think this election for the Republicans was great. We dominate the house so no far-left initiatives have any chance of ever making it to law. And I was sorta glad we didn’t get the Senate, because now the Democrats still have some culpability and Obama can’t play against the Republican congress in 2012. We are also close enough that if we win the White House in 2012, we could possibly send a complete majority Republican Senate with that person.

So that is GREAT news.

However, WHAT IF Obama decides to compromise with the Republicans? Remember Clinton compromised with the Republicans after 1994 and got some good things done on trade, welfare and the economy took off as well. Clinton was then re-elected as a more popular candidate than when he won in 1992.

Point is, if Clinton had not worked with the Republicans then maybe the country struggles longer and we beat him in 1996, but that wasn’t what was best for our country.

So the struggle I am having is this. Can we afford NOT to work with a Democrat President if it means we can help the USA? If he works WITH our guys, moves to the center, limits government spending and frees up the market and that helps our nation, then it stands a chance he could get re-elected, something I don’t want to see.

But…helping our country now, and the US Republicans now have a chance to help our nation may actually turn out to help the Democrat President.

While I was popping champagne the other night, I am now left with these thoughts and don’t know what to think. Again…for me it’s country first.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; chat; concerntroll; gopcomeback; vanity; victorkilo; zot; zuluoscartango
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To: Darksheare; 50mm
Sigh...

When will people learn? It's never a good idea to give a fur bearing mammal a firearm. Edged weapons are a completely different matter. Wombats are perfectly capable of handling broad axes and halberds. An Aardvark would do best with a foil or perhaps a rapier. I limit ursulines to flambeges, but that's just my preference.

161 posted on 11/04/2010 8:22:02 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist; 50mm; Darksheare; UCANSEE2
Yea I guess I messed up there. I was just trying to learn the navigation of the site.

Well don't try to be cute with me. Just answer two questions.

1 - What's your stand on the right to arm bears?

2 - What do you have against marsupials, Wombats in particular?

3 - Why, the dickens, is there a third question?

162 posted on 11/04/2010 8:27:45 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Grizzled Bear

The Mod ZOTteth and the Mod resurrecteth the troll. It’s pretty darn confusing.


163 posted on 11/04/2010 8:32:42 PM PDT by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: 50mm; Darksheare; Admin Moderator
Ever read the "Pearls Before Swine" comic strip? The cartoonist, a Mr Pastis, regularly has characters die and "un-die."

Perhaps the Mr Pastis is really the enigmatic Admin Moderator...

164 posted on 11/04/2010 8:37:33 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist
Gupta Parthameshanki

Okay, that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Glad to see that the administrator resurrected you and that you appear to be a real boy and not a troll. Welcome to freerepublic, sincerely. You're going to be fine here.

165 posted on 11/04/2010 10:02:31 PM PDT by lonevoice (I can see Tuesday from my house!)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist
At least you've got a long suffering sense of humor.
You'll do well here.

Welcome to Free Republic.

166 posted on 11/04/2010 10:08:30 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist

If you survive the initiation, I must warn you that most of us here have a problem. We are hopelessly addicted to FR.

Be careful or the same will happen to you. So... you have that to look forward to.

: )


167 posted on 11/04/2010 10:14:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist
and my favorite, an Indian

Whatever floats your boat, chief.

(get it? Indian.... chief )

168 posted on 11/04/2010 10:20:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: MamaB; Conservative_Pragmatist; I see my hands; hiredhand

I was part of the reason C-P didn’t respond quickly.

Beside the fact that her posts weren’t showing up right at first, CP and I got into a long exchange in PRIVATE MAIL (and I wasn’t the only one), verifying she wasn’t a troll.

I would like to remind those of us FREEPERS who are still busy patting themselves on the back for zotting a troll, that YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG.

Please give that some thought.


169 posted on 11/04/2010 10:33:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist
I’d like to be able to exchange ideas with people and maybe I went about this all wrong.

I think that it was just some over zealous Freepers who made your first thread adventure seem negative.

I assure you, though, that it ALL was meant to happen, and all for good reasons.

If we just ignore the CONCERNED TROLL posts, you actually ended up having a pretty good thread.

170 posted on 11/04/2010 10:54:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist
I have responded to a bunch of comments, but don’t yet see them posted.

As part of your NOOB training and initiation, my response is,,,

ARE YOU LOGGED ON?

(once you get that joke, you are no longer a noob)

171 posted on 11/04/2010 10:59:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist
I am NOT SAYING for the Republicans to move to compromise with Obama I am asking if he works with our guys? yes, some suggest Obama won’t do that...if thats the case this thead is a moot point. I was just thinking of the possibility in light of what Clinton did.

The difference, IMO, is that Clinton really wasn't that much of a liberal. He was an opportunist, looking mainly for his own aggrandizement. If compromising with conservatives was a means of accomplishing that, it was no big deal to him.

Obama, on the other hand, is a committed, doctrinaire Marxist. Working with conservatives will not make progress toward his objectives. Consequently, I can't see him being willing to do it.

172 posted on 11/05/2010 5:04:48 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Conservative_Pragmatist

If you survive your first week, you’ll do fine.
We can be rough.
And we can have a wierd sense of humor.

My coffee is legendary in its horrible effects on life:
In 12 cup drip percolator pot, fill to 6 cup mark with water.
In filter, put 6 heaping scoops of coffee.
Medium roast works best, just make sure it’s a robust blend.
Found a maxwellhouse ‘medium roast’ that was rather anemic.
Put pinch of salt in filter, about as much as it would take to cover the surface of a dime with one even layer.
This keeps the coffee from tasting burned too quickly, it doesn’t age well brewed this way.

Brew, recirculate if need be, usually not.
Add sugar and dairy creamer.
Creamora and coffeemate are not recommended unless you like the heart racing that Ranger Pudding gives.
That, and the nondairy creamer will give you both a headache and a buzz with the coffee.

I usually put about 8 spoons of sugar in this stuff, it ends up being like Russian Kava, thick and sweet with that bitter overtone to it.

Oh, and I am NOT responsible for seeming demonic possession of the coffeepot, or the coffeepot ending up acting as if it has been damaged.


173 posted on 11/05/2010 11:38:17 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: 50mm
The Mod ZOTteth and the Mod resurrecteth the troll. It’s pretty darn confusing.

Not at all. After all, the Mod is only one letter away from God...

174 posted on 11/05/2010 11:56:09 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: UCANSEE2
Sez you. LOL!

175 posted on 11/05/2010 4:35:16 PM PDT by I see my hands (How's that ballot box thing working out for you?)
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To: UCANSEE2; Conservative_Pragmatist
YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG.

No, you're wrong. I called the VK after the poster was ZOTted. Apparently, the Admin Mod decided to reinstate the poster. If you have an issue with that, take it up with the Mod.

176 posted on 11/05/2010 4:53:45 PM PDT by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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