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Posted on 11/03/2010 6:13:01 AM PDT by kgrif_Salinas

While the country made a sharp turn to the right, giving the GOP the House in a landslide, CA has moved MORE to the LEFT, if thats possible. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown as the next Gov, with a Dem Assembly, AND Prop 25 passed, which only requires a simple majority to pass a budget. CA is doomed, and will soon fall into the Pacific. I predict CA bankruptcy before 2012. Truly a land of fruits and nuts.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: brown; california; californiaisdone; left; penisons; prop25; unfundedpenisons
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To: abigail2

Surely the provisional votes haven’t been counted yet. It is my understanding that provisional votes have to be verified before they are counted. I guess it won’t make any difference though.


101 posted on 11/03/2010 7:09:40 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of the Military Vote?)
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To: kgrif_Salinas

It doesn’t really matter who the governor is in California.
The public unions run the state and the state legislature do their bidding. Too many on the gravy train have too much to lose by addressing the problems.

A disaster is soon to come in this state and it won’t be pretty nor will the Governor, the legislature or the judgiciary be able to repair the damage. We’re doomed.


102 posted on 11/03/2010 7:09:47 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Grumplestiltskin
The term “chained to a corpse” was first applied to the bungling Austria-Hungary empire being the primary ally (and burden) of Germany during WWI.Germany would be winning the war and then AH would do something dumb and the Germans would have to postpone victory in order to pull their sorry butts from the fire.

The same happened to Germany during WWII only this time it was a maladroit Italy that had to be rescued (bailed out) when they started battles they were too stupid to win.

WE have California.
They should go ahead and close Wash DC and make the entire state of CA into the new US Capital—the District of California—it's going to be a federal “protectorate” anyway.

Even the Feds can run the state better than THEY can--and that's saying something.

103 posted on 11/03/2010 7:11:30 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("So this is how a black man leads America.")
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To: Joan Kerrey
California, the next Detroit.
104 posted on 11/03/2010 7:12:25 AM PDT by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: kgrif_Salinas

My apologies in advance to California Freepers and Freepers from other dark “blue” states . . . but my attitude is that if we are going to have @ssholes in government, they may as well be concentrated in places like Massachusetts, New York, California, etc.


105 posted on 11/03/2010 7:12:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We also have the environmental nazis in charge too! Gavin Newsome, Kamala Harris and the prop against oil were all winners too!

You think for a second that these progressives aren’t going to attack every single business in this state and attempt to destroy them?

This state is in shambles and they are going to make it worse.


106 posted on 11/03/2010 7:12:59 AM PDT by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: kgrif_Salinas

I think CA might be proof that running RINOs is a losing proposition. It’s one thing to run on principle and lose, but when you run saying “I’m kind of like them, but kind of different” and then start positioning yourself during the campaign to be like them there isn’t really that much difference between the frying pan and the fire. The ‘Terminator’ did a lot to terminate the CA Republicans, and so now they have to figure out what to do. I hope they get a clue and come back to first principles, otherwise CA will be a lost cause for decades. I’m not hold my breath though, NY Republicans are just as bad, if not worse and there’s no sign of that changing.


107 posted on 11/03/2010 7:13:38 AM PDT by dajeeps
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To: kgrif_Salinas

OK as a Californian I really would like to offer an alternate explanation to the widely held belief that people moving into other states from CA are going to want to make your town another San Francisco. It’s not true.

Presently, I am staying here for one reason: My employer treats me well and pays me fairly. It makes no sense to leave as long as that is the case. However - 15 minutes after that changes, the car will be gassed up and I’ll be heading out. And I’ll join the exodus. Let me offer my view of the mindset, you’ll find represented in this new wave of reverse Okies:

To all those saying “do not move to (insert state name)” please know for a fact - unlike previous migrations you’ve seen Californians from, this one is driven by conservatives leaving liberalism.

Previously, those who rode the CA real estate bubble right to the top then moved out with their windfall, were liberals. They were made amazingly wealthy in a very short time by complete happenstance, and without exception felt deeply attached to California liberalism because it allowed them to accumulate all that wealth they moved to your town with. They’re the ones you think, the rest of us are like.

Wrong.

That’s not what’s happening now. Now the liberals are staying here and electing people like Moonbeam, and passing stupid props guaranteeing the state will economically implode.

It is conservative individuals, and conservative companies, now heading out the door.

If you see a car with a CA plate, it’s not a liberal. It’s a REFUGEE from liberalism.

Offer them tea. :)


108 posted on 11/03/2010 7:14:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (FU TURD BLOSSOM!)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry
The worst part about the liberal Californians isn't what they've done to their own state it's what they are now exporting to other states. Having lived in Nevada for some time I can tell you that it was a fairly conservative state as recently as 2003, however with many Californians cashing in on the real estate boom and relocating it has flipped Nevada from Red to Blue. This is also occurring in Utah, Oregon, and Colorado.

I compare it to a swarm of left-wing locusts which have stripped California of vegetation then relocated and started the same process again.

I just don't understand how someone could be so foolish as to completely screw-up their own state with idiot bureaucracy then complain and move to another state only to pass the same laws and elect the same type of people who will inevitably screw-up their new state.

109 posted on 11/03/2010 7:16:22 AM PDT by Alcibiades ("First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire"--Roland Deschain)
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To: kgrif_Salinas

Coyote-ugly California.


110 posted on 11/03/2010 7:18:22 AM PDT by Miss Behave
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To: AngryJawa; ClearCase_guy

I had no illusions that my state (CT) would follow the rest of the country and elect GOP candidates to the US Senate or House, *but* most everyone I talked with was very dissatisfied with their state reps and senators.

And what did they do? Every incumbent in my region won. Every. Single. One.

Insane.


111 posted on 11/03/2010 7:18:43 AM PDT by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: kgrif_Salinas

The only thing we can do about Kolifornia is to make sure they don’t get bailed out!! We have enough votes now to keep it from happening!!


112 posted on 11/03/2010 7:19:36 AM PDT by ontap
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To: truthguy

The truth, truthguy, is that the republican party failed Californians by endorsing unelectable globalists for key offices.

Next for Jerry Brown? The republican party needs to get the California constitution clarified over the legality of Brown assuming office for a third term. If I recall correctly, the Constitution limits a person to 2 terms as governor.

Of course Brown was ineligible for Attorney general too, but California let him blow by that. It was very convenient for this election in that no one could bring up the eligibility question before the election to him as he was the Attorney General. He’s quite the Machiavellian politician.

Californians also need to investigate his families ties to Indonesian oil and his creation of the air resources board which helped to make the Brown family very very wealthy.

There’s a lot of rot to clear out of California government, and if republicans really want to act republican, they will focus their energy on this state and get it cleaned up.


113 posted on 11/03/2010 7:19:39 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: bboop

You’re right. Keep up the fight for Conservatism, even though you are in the minority. 2012 will be better, I pray.


114 posted on 11/03/2010 7:21:43 AM PDT by jch10 (Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war...)
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To: ontap

I agree.

No matter what happens, please do not bail out this state.

“Tough Love” is what is needed. Liberalism now has complete, unquestionable reign in CA. Dems are firmly in control of every single branch of government, across the state.

From today forward, every single thing which happens in California is because of liberalism. All of it.

It needs to fail. Liberalism is driving California now ever more rapidly to economic collapse.

It now needs to collapse. Let it collapse. Do not let one single US taxpayer dollar, be squandered in the coming mess.

Please. Liberalism will fail spectacularly now in California. It must be allowed to.


115 posted on 11/03/2010 7:23:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (FU TURD BLOSSOM!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Thanks. Family obligations keep me tethered to this blue state, so I get reamed every election. Par for the course I guess.


116 posted on 11/03/2010 7:25:55 AM PDT by Betis70 (First the House, then the Senate)
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To: kgrif_Salinas


CA is doomed, and will soon fall into the Pacific.

Having lived in Los Angeles during 1885-2005, I agree.

BUT...the problem, as has happened over a couple of decades is that
the Californians will flee the economic disaster they created by
voting for the likes of Boxer and Henry Waxman (”my” Congressman
in LA) and take their political cancer to sane states.

(E.g., the flight of Californians to Texas in search of afforable real estate).

The same thing happened during previous economic downturns when Californians
fled to Oregon, Washington state, Nevada and even Idaho.

The one reason I can see for “bailing out” California is if it’s
stipulated that “y’all stay put in your economic hell-hole!”.


117 posted on 11/03/2010 7:26:47 AM PDT by VOA
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To: snarkytart
Geographically, most of CA is red. We are ruled by a handful of highly populated liberal blue counties.

Here is a map of who voted for Moonbeam:

The same is true of Washington State, btw, King County rules that state.

118 posted on 11/03/2010 7:27:06 AM PDT by poindexters brother
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To: abigail2
They looked like Acorn types and each and every one came in and they weren’t on the roster so they voted ‘provisionary’.

I ended up voting provisionary also. That ballot box was stuffed. Anyone could walk in and not be on the list and not present a license and vote. Exactly what I did. Mexicans are stealing the State and the Dems think they are gonna be treated like kings. Just wait until the Mexican Drug Lords start shooting up the Marijuana Health Clinics with AK47's.

119 posted on 11/03/2010 7:27:32 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Betis70
This is the problem with "throw the bums out" -- at least as far as implementation goes. Many people say "all those pigs in Congress should be thrown out" and then they follow up with "Except my guy -- he's pretty cool. We should keep him."

I'm in MA: I think Harry Reid should have been thrown out -- but who cares what I think? The people in his state think he's pretty cool and wanted to keep him.

Term Limits may be a good idea, since they would block people from serving 30 years as "public servants".

On another topic: People take this same attitude with budget cuts. Everyone wants to cut the budget. Everyone sees waste and fraud and abuse. But as soon as any cut is proposed, people jump up and say "Sure, we need to cut the budget -- but not there! Are you crazy??

Budget cuts are hard, because every stupid piece of the budget has fans who can't let go. My position is: I support any cut, to any program, in any amount. No scared cows. I just want cuts, and I deny myself the luxury of saying "Oh, but not there." Show me a proposed cut and I will support it.

But many people want to protect their congressman and want to protect their pet program.

120 posted on 11/03/2010 7:27:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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