Iraq Church Standoff, is “Al-Qaeda“‘s answer to Pope Benedict’s synod statement

Roads to Iraq ^ | November 1st, 2010 | Ladybird

[Mister Ghost]

In this con­text, we can clas­sify yesterday’s inci­dent of the Syr­iac Catholic Church of the Arch-Baghdad as the first test for the released Synod state­ment, to check the reac­tions of the patri­archs, bish­ops and church offi­cials on the chal­lenges fac­ing Chris­tians in the Mid­dle East, and was not an encour­ag­ing experience.

Many fear the fate of Chris­tians in the East, as it turns to the ter­ror­ists for their attrib­utes with the pas­sage of time. After being “mar­gin­al­ized” polit­i­cally (even in Lebanon, where Chris­tians have been absent from polit­i­cal influ­ence in the coun­try), they have become “minor­ity”, who is not heard nor received the nec­es­sary atten­tion and then “migrants” As a result of the polit­i­cal and eco­nomic developments.

those who remained are “oppressed”, turned into “tar­gets”, to end up yes­ter­day to being “hostages”, despite of the pres­ence of the (Chris­t­ian) U.S. troops in Iraq.

The Vat­i­can, con­demned the actions of the mil­i­tants, and demanded that “the cri­sis would be solved quickly and peace­fully” not­ing that “the sit­u­a­tion of Chris­tians in the East and prac­ti­cally in Iraq was the focus of the Synod held in the Vatican”.

What hap­pened in Iraq, can hap­pen in Egypt or the occu­pied ter­ri­to­ries, or any coun­try where Chris­tians are a minor­ity, seen as “acces­sories” to dec­o­rate the image of the host coun­try to say that it has the val­ues of open­ness in the (Arab, Mus­lims, Mid­dle East­ern) societies.

[Lurker]

This author, seems to really, really, like using, lots and lots, of commas.

[agere_contra]

The Muslim attack was to free “Muslim girls held hostage in Coptic monasteries” or some such nonsense.

[phobia-dude]

It is pathetic for the American Christian majority to ignore the plight of the Christian minority in the Arab Muslim world. Such lack of activism among the Christians in the US is symptomatic of the liberal popular culture of “separation of church and state”! The same liberal culture does not mind that the US military defends the Muslims in Bosnia & Kosovo regardless of the notion of separation of church and state! Millions of Christians have been slaughtered in the Muslim world in the past few decades, mostly during the collapse of the ottoman empire, and the south Sudan. The Bible thumping hillbilly preachers never mention any of such atrocities, so do we expect the average Christian to care? If the media is anti-Christian, and even the church is silent?

How can the Christian majority in the US unite to defend oppressed Christians around the world without being called fascists, KKK? Our popular culture is imposed by the minority in the US to subjugate the majority. It can only happen if the majority discover that they are strangled and gagged by the politically correct organizations that prevent the majority from organizing. If OReilly get heckled by our liberal media just by saying “Muslim” terrorists? Did Joy Behar right an editorial against the kidnapping of the Christians in the Iraqi church? How many American Christians marched in the streets or sent protest to all the Arab embassies in Washington? Do our America Christian population have something similar to CAIR, or the ACLU? No organization will get us nothing but abuse.

[phobia-dude]

Suppose a writer has discovered a new Nazi evidences that makes your skin curls, and as you are reading it, and your blood is boiling some stupid guy comments that the article has too many commas; would you be happy?

[Lurker]

Suppose you were trying to make your way through an article, allegedly written in English, only to find that improper punctuation and grammar has rendered it unreadable. Would that make you happy?

[phobia-dude]

The subject matter is getting me angry dude. Read my comment above and disregard your pitiful grammar objection. It is a matter of survival for the USA? If our majority don't realize that they are in the frog boiling process, it will be too late because some of us are concerned about “separation of church and state, and others about the good grammar?

[Will88]

I again propose that we exchange all Muslims living in Western nations for all Christians living in Muslim nations. About the only long term solution that will end such terrorism and persecution. (And also, the poor, persecuted Muslims in America could be free of the terrible Islamophobia in the US.)

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Is it clear now that the dirty beard savages can’t ever be civilized? They should be banned from all civilized countries.

[Lurker]

The subject matter is getting me angry dude.

As it should.

What should also make you angry is that there are already multiple threads on this event in the forum and some barely literate blog pimp is wasting valuable bandwidth by posting nearly incomprensible gibberish.

[HearMe]

Are they referring to the same recent synod that called for Israel to end its occupation of “Arab lands,” noting that all of what we define currently as Israel is “Arab land.”

Which added that: “The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of the Palestinians, to justify the occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands,”

This should be an answer to anyone who believes Islam hates us because we support Israel. That everything would be nice and peaceful if we were “even handed” or anti Israel.

The lesson here is that they hate and want to kill Christians and Jews who support Israel.

And that they hate and want to kill Christian and Jews who don’t support Israel.

They hate us either way- might as well support Israel.

Too bad the lesson will be lost on most- including the Vatican.

[Mister Ghost]

Ladybird has been cited everywhere from Hot Air to Time Magazine.

She’s an Iraqi and English is her third or so language, so her grammar isn’t perfect.

It’s good to get the Iraqi perceptive about the attack.

[Lurker]

There are such things as “Spell and Grammar Check”. I do appreciate her perspective but when something is written this poorly it detracts from her message.

[mas cerveza por favor]

This should be an answer to anyone who believes Islam hates us because we support Israel. That everything would be nice and peaceful if we were “even handed” or anti Israel.

Why do you say that a synod highly critical of Islam was trying to curry favor with Islam by also criticizing Jews? Israel uses false biblical pretext to force Christians from their ancestral lands.

[HearMe]

Israel uses false biblical pretext to force Christians from their ancestral lands.

Really?

Site- WITH PROOF- that ever happening.

Such accusation is an absolute lie.

[HearMe]

Site=Cite

[mas cerveza por favor]

You did not know that Palestinian land holders, including Christians, have been and are being dispossessed in Israel? Read a book.

Many say this is simple conquest like cowboys vs. Indians. However, the Catholic, East Orthodox, and traditional Protestant interpretation of scripture provides no special justification for this conquest. The Abrahamic blessings can be claimed only by those who remain faithful by following the Messiah.

[HearMe]

You wrote the same garbage, this time asking me to read “a book”.

I will repeat:

Cite- WITH PROOF- that ever happening.

Such accusation is an absolute lie.

[mas cerveza por favor]

Your silence registers as an affirmation to my question: "You did not know that Palestinian land holders, including Christians, have been and are being dispossessed in Israel?"

Cite what? Reference to mainstream reality is not an accusation. Are you disputing that Palestinian land holders were dispossessed or that some Palestinians are Christian? To learn about these things you might start by reading the wiki entry on Israel or any other mainstream source of information.

[mas cerveza por favor]

You cited the synod itself as saying: “The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of the Palestinians, to justify the occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands,”

You then conclude:

They hate us either way- might as well support Israel. Too bad the lesson will be lost on most- including the Vatican.

The synod was put on by Middle Eastern Christians, including Palestinians. Many Westerners support Israel for geopolitical reasons, but why should you expect Palestinian Christians to support their own displacement?