Posted on 10/30/2010 10:07:47 PM PDT by Sioux-san
The Vatican has called for Israel to end its occupation of "Arab lands," noting that all of what we define currently as Israel is "Arab land."
That the Bible must not be used to justify either their ‘occupation' nor their ‘injustices' against Palestinians.
"The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of the Palestinians, to justify the occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands," Monsignor Cyril Salim Bustros, Greek Melkite archbishop of Our Lady of the Annunciation in Boston, Massachusetts, and president of the "Commission for the Message," said at Saturday's Vatican press conference.
"We Christians cannot speak of the ‘promised land' as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people. This promise was nullified by Christ. There is no longer a chosen people - all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people."
You've just been witness to a significant event in the End Times unfolding, amigo. The Vatican stating that Israel is "no longer a chosen people".
The Vatican has just nullified the Bible, and elevated Replacement Theology in full public view.
This is .... stunning.
Vatican synod calls for end to Israel's ‘occupation'
What does this have to do with the ‘American Spectstor’? The Melkite Catholics have only 1.3 million members in all the world, so he is speaking for, at most, one tenth of one percent of Catholics.
Pick one. Their actions speak.
Yes, but not before we go through a world of hurt. If this election goes badly for Barry, I do believe he will call out the dogs of hell and take it to the streets during the next two years. I thought it Petraeus might have been worthy, but obviously I was very wrong about him. Be wary about anyone who looks like the one — we are easily fooled.
‘Paul speaks from prison extensively from this. He Wins’
Paul did not despise the Christians who were not in prison.
Thanks, LCS. I’m not Catholic, so there’s much I guess I don’t understand about this. I was just saying that the Pope could, at least, take a stand on the Bible part of it regarding the comments that Christ nullified the old testament and Jews being the chosen people. I agree with an earlier poster that we as Gentiles are saved by God’s grace through his Son - but it’s so wrong to sanction this new dispute over the Bible stating the Jews are the chosen people from the beginning.
I call for an end to Muslim occupation of Christian, Jewish and Hindu lands, which pretty much leaves the Muslims with nothing much more than the Arabian peninsula.
I’m not Catholic!
I second that motion. I think you should call a meeting and then not show up!
YIKES!
Of course not. He had a situation and created a foundation. He had witnessed the truth.
If you read the Koran you will see that there were well established Jewish and Christian communities in Mecca, before Mohammed killed them. One theory is that he started as an Arian Christian, since much of his theology derives from Arianism. The Roman Arab province of Nabataea (capital Petra), was Christian, so Islam was a violent invader even in Arabia.
The bishops issued the statement at the close of their two-week meeting, called by Pope Benedict XVI to discuss the plight of Christians in the Middle East amid a major exodus of the faithful from the region.
The Catholic Church has long been a minority in the largely Muslim region but its presence is shrinking further as a result of war, conflict, discrimination and economic problems.
“The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of the Palestinians, to justify the occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands,” Monsignor Cyril Salim Bustros, Greek Melkite archbishop of Our Lady of the Annunciation in Boston, Massachusetts, and president of the “Commission for the Message,” said at Saturday’s Vatican press conference.
“We Christians cannot speak of the ‘promised land’ as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people. This promise was nullified by Christ. There is no longer a chosen people – all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people.
“Even if the head of the Israeli state is Jewish, the future is based on democracy.
The Palestinian refugees will eventually come back and this problem will have to be solved,” the Lebanese-born Bustros said.
Mordechay Lewy, Israel’s ambassador to the Holy See, told The Jerusalem Post that Bustros, in saying that Jesus nullified God’s covenant with the Jewish people, was “returning to successionist theology, contradicting Second Vatican Council teaching and Pope Benedict himself – who has welcomed the return of Jews to their ancient homeland.”
“Also,” added the ambassador, “by inviting all Palestinian refugees to return and denying Israel’s right to define itself a Jewish state – the only such in the world – he is regressing to hard-line positions that deny Israel’s right to exist.”
from the JP article:
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=192474
Will the Holy Father refute the statements of the Final Joint Communique of the Ecumenical Conference that he called to discuss the plight of Christians in the Middle East?
‘Will the Holy Father refute the statements of the Final Joint Communique of the Ecumenical Conference that he called to discuss the plight of Christians in the Middle East?’
His policies have refuted it in advance. If the Pope was to spend his time correcting misstatements made by one or another of the one and a half billion Catholics, even those who were his guests, he would have no time to run the Church.
‘Will the Holy Father refute the statements of the Final Joint Communique of the Ecumenical Conference that he called to discuss the plight of Christians in the Middle East?’
His policies have refuted it in advance. If the Pope was to spend his time correcting misstatements made by one or another of the one and a half billion Catholics, even those who were his guests, he would have no time to run the Church.
I haven’t seen anything on Vatican websites about this. I think it is a hoax.
Approved at the end of the synod assemblies, the text (presented here in full) is rich in ideas: the sad political situation in the Middle East, and the fatigue of Churches, emigration and the Diaspora, the desire to build a society with Jews and Muslims based on full equality of citizens, condemnation of anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and anti-Christianity, the appeal to the UN and the international community to ensure peace in the conflict between Israel and Palestine, in Lebanon, in Iraq.It is interesting that the statements of the Monsignor Archbishop Bustros of the Greek Melkite faith were not in the approved document from the Vatican, although the statements regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are there.
It sounds as if this final joint communique referred to in the original article may have been from a few secularist minded prelates that attempted to spin the outcome of the conference.
This is a different take on the story and also describes the participants.
Middle East Christians are told to embrace secularist drive
Catholic bishops in the Middle East have called for Christians in the region to be advocates of separating faith and politics
I don’t agree with Rome’s take on this, but it’s not because Rome fails to see or take seriously particular Bible predictions. It’s reasonable to presume that such predictions or hopes were never meant to guarantee Palestine’s perpetual occupation and dominance by Jews nor were those predictions meant to do double-, triple- (etc.!) duty. Land is won and held by force. It’s never “given” or “promised” without ensuing warfare or almost equally destructive strife (Ireland comes to mind).
Israel can’t have it both ways—its dominance in what was Palestine is either a matter of superior military force or God’s Will, with which no force of any kind would be necessary.
The Vatican, doing its job, is looking toward a lasting peace, not nullifying the Old Testament—operative word here, btw, being “Old”.
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Oops. Forgot the Sarcasm tag...
'Blame the Jews'. /sarc
In other words, they demonized the Jews in all kinds of conspiracy theories.
I am not sure it is a total hoax. Most likely a misrepresentation of a statement by a small group of Catholics, with posters claiming it is an official church position from someone at a meeting in the Vatican..
I wonder WHO in the vatican wrote this. There are lots of left leaning priests and bishops and they don’t speak for the whole church...
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