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To: Sioux-san

I don’t agree with Rome’s take on this, but it’s not because Rome fails to see or take seriously particular Bible predictions. It’s reasonable to presume that such predictions or hopes were never meant to guarantee Palestine’s perpetual occupation and dominance by Jews nor were those predictions meant to do double-, triple- (etc.!) duty. Land is won and held by force. It’s never “given” or “promised” without ensuing warfare or almost equally destructive strife (Ireland comes to mind).

Israel can’t have it both ways—its dominance in what was Palestine is either a matter of superior military force or God’s Will, with which no force of any kind would be necessary.

The Vatican, doing its job, is looking toward a lasting peace, not nullifying the Old Testament—operative word here, btw, being “Old”.


57 posted on 10/31/2010 12:28:28 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9
The Vatican, doing its job, is looking toward a lasting peace, not nullifying the Old Testament—operative word here, btw, being “Old”.

Now that is funny. You nullified your own comment, all in the same sentence. If calling it "old" is not nullifying, what is? Sheesh.
63 posted on 10/31/2010 2:17:56 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Mach9
The Vatican, doing its job, is looking toward a lasting peace, not nullifying the Old Testament—operative word here, btw, being “Old”.

Try replacing 'Old' with ORIGINAL.

80 posted on 10/31/2010 9:10:05 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Mach9

There never was a sovereign nation known as Palestine - the powers of the world have fought for, won & lost most of the territory on earth since the Git Go (those bad evil colonials, y’know). The Brits with the cooperation of the UN were forced to deal with the millions of Jews who had nowhere to go after WW2. The so-called Palestine was carved up with a small spit given to the Jews. A much larger piece, then known as Trans-Jordan was for the Arabs. No one was forced out of Israel - they ran out rather be seen as collaborators with the Jews. Israel has had to fight to keep what it has since day 1. They have never been the aggressors, but have been repeatedly attacked. Let’s face it - the Jews have accomplished in just a few decades what the Arabs have never done in hundreds of years. Nothing happens in a vacuum. The Vatican and Catholic church is at its heart the Social Justice team, in partnership with communists and Islam against all of us Infidels.


82 posted on 10/31/2010 10:39:33 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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