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GOP gay rights group fights against gay troop ban
Associated Press ^ | 0ct. 21, 2010 | JULIE WATSON and LISA LEFF

Posted on 10/21/2010 4:22:39 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- When he left the Bush administration in 2008, Clarke R. Cooper decided he had to raise his voice.

The decorated Iraq war veteran says he had been serving in the Army, with some in his unit aware that he was gay.

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1 posted on 10/21/2010 4:22:40 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The gays fight against gays not allowed being in the military....color me shocked!


2 posted on 10/21/2010 4:26:53 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Obama IS a jackass!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

NAL SEX is ALL THEY THINK ABOUT!!!


3 posted on 10/21/2010 4:27:42 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

As the mother of a 19 year old gay male, that offends me greatly. MY gay kid thinks about a LOT of things - politics, school, his job, caring for his (mostly female) friends, and oh, yeah, one of these days, someone to settle down with and love. Don’t shoot your mouth off if you have no personal experience.
And, incidentally, he’s more right wing than I am - and that’s going a long way!


4 posted on 10/21/2010 4:44:59 PM PDT by CT Little Tiger (Even when I was young and stupid I voted smart - aka - Republican ( Palin/Jindal 2012))
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To: CT Little Tiger
As the mother of a 19 year old gay male

Simple question: do you support the military being forced to accept openly homosexual recruits?

5 posted on 10/21/2010 4:51:59 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: CT Little Tiger

Give me a break!! Your son is in for a lot of heartbreak.


6 posted on 10/21/2010 4:52:46 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CT Little Tiger

Are you married or divorced or single??


7 posted on 10/21/2010 4:53:46 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ugh.... I wish the media would stop lying.

DON'T ASK DON'T TELL IS NOT A BAN! IT ALLOWS GAYS TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY!

8 posted on 10/21/2010 4:53:59 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; dervish; ...

The troop ban by Harvard? That’s pretty gay.


9 posted on 10/21/2010 4:54:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: pnh102
"Don't ask, don't tell" is misleading. The law actually states that homosexuality is incompatible with military service. Even if the service member doesn't tell, but the Service finds out about his/her homosexuality, the law requires that the service member be discharged.

The phrase "don't ask, don't tell" was created by the late Charles Moskos, a sociologist who specialized in military affairs. It was his proposal for dealing with the issue. However, Congress didn't go along with his idea. The law as written is stronger than that. Unfortunately, the phrase caught on, even though it is not the correct description of the situation.

10 posted on 10/21/2010 5:00:22 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. More @ www.book-resistancetotyranny.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What’s with the word “gay?” Gay means happy. They should use the word “homosexual” if that’s what they mean.


11 posted on 10/21/2010 5:08:15 PM PDT by RingerSIX
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Gays should be allowed into the military, along with people in wheel chairs, people with contagious diseases, sexual disfunctions, flat feet, deafness, blindness, heart disease and epilepsy. We should also allow cross dressers, children, elderly, foreigners, draft dodgers, anti war protesters, and terrorists.

Bring em all in I say. The all inclusive Military. Sounds like a plan!

12 posted on 10/21/2010 5:15:29 PM PDT by BocoLoco
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To: pnh102

Thank you. You don’t know how many times I’ve tried to tell people (mostly libs) this. Yes, there are gays in the military. No, I couldn’t ask. No, I couldn’t pursue (all the liberals miss this one).


13 posted on 10/21/2010 5:15:34 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: pnh102

Ugh.... I wish the media would stop lying.

DON’T ASK DON’T TELL IS NOT A BAN! IT ALLOWS GAYS TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY!
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Thank you....


14 posted on 10/21/2010 5:26:47 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: Ann Archy

Happily married, thank you, not that it’s any of your business. Who are you to judge me, or anyone? I’m a REAL Christian - I don’t judge. That’s God’s job, not mine. I’ll pray for your hate filled mind.


15 posted on 10/21/2010 5:35:06 PM PDT by CT Little Tiger (Even when I was young and stupid I voted smart - aka - Republican ( Palin/Jindal 2012))
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To: Sans-Culotte

I really believe that this is more of a tempest in a teapot than anything else. Do some talking to military folks - most don’t give a darn about orientation, but how someone performs in battle. And what so many do not seem to understand is, just like heterosexuals, gays are not attracted to everyone of the same sex.


16 posted on 10/21/2010 5:37:59 PM PDT by CT Little Tiger (Even when I was young and stupid I voted smart - aka - Republican ( Palin/Jindal 2012))
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To: Sans-Culotte

I really believe that this is more of a tempest in a teapot than anything else. Do some talking to military folks - most don’t give a darn about orientation, but how someone performs in battle. And what so many do not seem to understand is, just like heterosexuals, gays are not attracted to everyone of the same sex.


17 posted on 10/21/2010 5:39:18 PM PDT by CT Little Tiger (Even when I was young and stupid I voted smart - aka - Republican ( Palin/Jindal 2012))
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To: CT Little Tiger
What the hell is the difference if you say you son is a PEDOPHILE??? It's ALL DEVIANT behavior...period.

A REAL Christian mother would help their child OUT OF HOMOSEXUALITY, not be PROUD of it. Sorry to hurt your feelings, but I'm not judging if you or your gay son is going to hell, just saying that what he is doing is DEVIANT....and you are standing up for him!!

18 posted on 10/21/2010 5:50:47 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Spot on oppo research. Some of the links have gone dead (notably at his current employer Wells Fargo mortgage where his photo was posted - surprise), but you can verify Herb Moses photo by logging on to LinkedIn and searching on that name - his page will come up (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/herb-moses/11/297/785)
with a photo if you are logged in, and it is in fact the very same unmistakable face of Herb Moses in the graphic gay porn that one can find on the internet.

This was posted in a 2008 FR thread that was recently pulled, and it can lead you to make the connection between the unmistakable face of Frank’s Fannie Mae ex-spouse and the same un-photoshopped man as a raunchy gay porn star: “You are definitely on the right track since I know that Herb lives in Huntington Beach with his lover of 10 years Alvaro C. and he does (maybe did) work at WF in mortgage lending. They have both been and still are part-time male prostitutes and have also done gay porn. Real Couples #1 was their first video together. This can be verified as Jessie Foxx (Alvaro) and Mike (Herb) on the DVD cover and posting on pay VOD sites. Sometimes the light of truth uncovers a questionable past.”


Discover the link - it seems that Frank’s former Fannie Mae “spouse” went on to star in harcore gay porn:

Barney Frank’s former so-called “spouse” was a man named Herb Moses.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/frank121898.htm

At the time, Herb Moses was a director for housing initiatives at Fannie Mae.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_/ai_n10104224.

Herb Moses helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1277/pub_detail.asp

Herb Moses was reportedly a mortgage expert who left Fannie Mae in 1998 to start a pottery business.
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080924145932.aspx

But not before his lover Barney Frank lobbied hard to widen Fannie Mae’s ability to give mortgages to high-risk borrowers.
http://www.businessweek.com/archives/1994/b33985.arc.htm

A “Herbert M. Moses” from Washington D.C. and employed by Fannie Mae gave $1500 to Democrats in the 1990s.
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=moses%2C+herb&state=&zip=&employ=&cand=&all=Y&sort=N&capcode=jb97b&submit=Submit

A “Herbert M. Moses” in D.C. is listed at whitepages.com
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=herbert&name=moses&street=&city_zip=&state_id=DC&localtime=survey.

At this whitepages page, you will find a “background records” link that allows you to buy a detailed report on that name from a list of several links.
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchState=DC&searchFName=herbert&searchLName=moses&adID=6194003754&adsource=9&TID=1&cid=background&searchtab=background

Several of those links will give a teaser list of cities where the named person presumedly has lived or lives.
http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/ala/category.do?cid=5105&did=0&adID=10002101&&searchtab=people&&searchFName=Herbert&searchMName=M&searchLName=Moses&searchCity=Washington&searchState=DC&searchApproxAge=&searchStateJurisdiction=DC&searchGender=&searchZip=20009-1106&vid=cfc&searchAgentNotes=Name_ViewAll&searchPerson=001786905501

Fact check: you can type in the name of someone you know and see that the list of teaser cities is an actual list of the actual cities where the named person has lived.

For “Herbert M. Moses” of D.C., Huntington Beach, CA, is one of 6 cities listed as a current or former residence.
http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/ala/category.do?cid=5105&did=0&adID=10002101&&searchtab=people&&searchFName=Herbert&searchMName=M&searchLName=Moses&searchCity=Washington&searchState=DC&searchApproxAge=&searchStateJurisdiction=DC&searchGender=&searchZip=20009-1106&vid=cfc&searchAgentNotes=Name_ViewAll&searchPerson=001786905501

Newport Beach is 6 miles from Huntington Beach
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=newport+beach,+ca&daddr=Huntington+Beach,+CA&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=33.829785,-117.27787&sspn=1.204664,2.460938&ie=UTF8&z=13

A google search of “Herbert Moses”
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Herbert+Moses%22

brings you to a photo and contact page of “Herb Moses” working at Wells Fargo in the mortgage department
https://www.wfhm.com/wfhm/herbert-moses/index.page

and Herb Moses of Wells Fargo mortgage is also listed at this website
http://workmanrealestategroup.com/lenders.html

A brand new FReeper, Stevie1958, has posted an interesting note at FR claiming that this same pictured Herb Moses has made porn films with his current long-term gay sex partner.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2094109/posts?page=85#85

A google search using key terms revealed by this new FReeper, Stevie1958, does lead to webpages with photos of the same pictured man (identified above as Herb Moses) engaged in explicit homosexual sex acts.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22jessie+foxx%22+%22real+couples%22

So, it seems that Barney Frank’s former homosexual “spouse” who was a Fannie Mae executive, is now a third rate loan salesman and gay pron star. It makes Frank’s old housemate, Steve Gobie, who Frank met when he hired him as a male escort, and who ran a gay “escort” service from Frank’s D.C. home, seem pretty tame in comparison (Representative Barney Frank received a formal reprimand from the House for his relationship with a male prostitute - Gobie).

And one more thing: Is Stevie1958 really Stephen L. Gobie?


19 posted on 10/21/2010 5:53:12 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: CT Little Tiger

Excuse me, you’re a real Christian? And you support those who are gays...have you never read your own Bible? This may not change your mind, it’s between you and God, but please check out these few verses/ch. on what God has to say about homosexuals....

Leviticus 20:13
Genesis 19
Jude 1:7
Isaiah 3:9
1 Cor 6:9-20

Please realize I send this not as an attack, but for clarification where there seems to be gross misunderstanding.


20 posted on 10/21/2010 6:59:01 PM PDT by Deo confidimus
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