Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
On consideration of the Petition for Extraordinary Relief in the Nature of a Writ of Mandamus and Application for a Stay of Proceedings, the petition is DENIED.
(Excerpt) Read more at caaflog.com ...
LOL, it’s about to turn me into an after birther.
I believe it was for membership in a historical society.
No way. You’re rejected. Not allowed. Never gonna happen. I’ll resign first.
;p
The clown in the White House will not directly address the Obama COLB that is posted on the Internet. He keeps his distance, and lets his mouth pieces like Roberta Gibbs make statement saying for $15 dollars the cost of a website, you can say anything.
“This clearly acknowledges that a minor COULD lose his citizenship from an act of the parents, or on his own after coming of age.”
Obama could undoubtedly lose his citizenship by renouncing it after coming of age. He could not lose it prior to that time.
“Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn, New York, on October 2, 1907. Her parents, who were natives of Sweden, emigrated to the United States sometime prior to 1906, and her father was naturalized here in that year. In 1911, her mother took her to Sweden, where she continued to reside until September 7, 1929. Her father went to Sweden in 1922, and has not since returned to the United States. In November, 1934, he made a statement before an American consul in Sweden that he had voluntarily expatriated himself for the reason that he did not desire to retain the status of an American citizen and wished to preserve his allegiance to Sweden.
In 1928, shortly before Miss Elg became twenty-one years of age, she inquired an American consul in Sweden about returning to the United States and was informed that, if she returned after attaining majority, she should seek an American passport. In 1929, within eight months after attaining majority, she obtained an American passport which was issued on the instructions of the Secretary of State. She then returned to the United States, was admitted as a citizen and has resided in this country ever since.”
“6. The Act of March 2, 1907, in providing “That any American citizen shall be deemed to have expatriated himself when he has been naturalized in any foreign state in conformity with its laws, . . . “ was aimed at voluntary expatriation, and was not intended to destroy the right of a native citizen, removed from this country during minority, to elect to retain the citizenship acquired by birth and to return here for that purpose, even though he may be deemed to have been naturalized under the foreign law by derivation from the citizenship of his parents before he came of age. P. 307 U. S. 342. “
http://supreme.justia.com/us/307/325/case.html
He asked me if I needed a certified copy or not. I didn’t know, and so that is precisely what I said. I don’t know. I was led to believe that Onaka was going to be contacting the institution I was requesting this for, to confirm I guess, that they needed a long form. I was expecting a call back. When I didn’t get one, I called them back, and had to leave a message. I got not a call back. Very soon after, I got the black and white copy in the mail.
So it isn’t so much that I let him choose. I was under the impression I was going to get a call back. He took it upon himself to send the black and white copy. I do not know what he based that decision on.
(face palm) Like that would do me any good.... I don’t want to get lumped in with Obama. My stuff from Hawaii is legit. It’s mine, and I have posted MORE information regarding my Birth than Obama EVER has. That right there ought to make it clear that I am actually MORE legit than Obama is.
Maybe that is what is chapping their arses so much come to think of it...
Well, will you redact it and post a copy? Does Danae’s look like yours?
Mine isn’t from Hawaii, so it wouldn’t look the same. I could do it but it would be like comparing apples to oranges. I specifically told them I wanted the long form to use for driver’s license, passports etc. She sure tried to talk me out of it but I persisted. She was an Afro-American and I by her attitude I think that she is aware of the BC issue and was trying to avoid telling me I could have it. It was like pulling teeth to get her to admit it was available.
I had to fax photo ID, I called her back, she said it was ok and came through, was light enough etc.
I didn’t get it after a month or so, and I called them back. They said the photo ID wasn’t light enough and she had rejected it. I told them I wanted someone else to process it. I received it with a few days.
I would call them back and tell them I didn’t pay 10.00 for something I couldn’t even use and that I wanted a certified one.
In fact, I have posted more information on my birth than Obama EVER has. This makes me MORE legit than Obama. That is whats chapping their arses.
Hawaii is covering up for Obama. Why? Because he got what documents he has from Hawaii by means of a fraud that the STATE was part of creating. Namely that of registering every baby to cross the threshold of the HDOH to get a COLB. Which ALSO got those babies US Citizenship, even though they have ZERO right to it. They did this because it got them MORE federal aid and what not. It would get babies registered for welfare, food stamps, vaccinations and every other state program needing numbers to guarantee more federal dollars.
Hawaii committed a HUGE fraud, and Obama just happens to be in the middle of it. Hawaii isn’t covering Obama’s butt per say.. they are covering the STATE’s butt.
Because if it comes to light that Obama does not HAVE a long form as has been reported, then Hawaii can’t prove he was born in the islands. Whats more, people will REALLY start asking ... ok, why did Hawaii set things up to happen this way? Oh... yea, register all the immigrant children for benefits and get more federal dollars... right. Hawaii doesn’t want people looking into THAT and Obama KNOWS it. Most people who lived in Hawaii in the 60’s and 70’s KNOW how corrupt the government and authorities are there.
For DAMN sure the current authorities know it, and THAT is why they don’t want to be giving out long forms. Pretty soon, people would be asking, wait, how many COLB’s does Hawaii have... and How many long forms does it have? How many COLB’s were obtained by virture of late filings and home births?
THOSE are questions Hawaii is rather desperate NOT to answer. Obama is well aware of it, and is simply using that leverage.
Still, all that being said, I have posted MORE information about my birth than Obama ever has. I have posted up documents I have received from the State from within the last 6 weeks. Long Forms ARE obtainable. As far as I know, I can easily go back and demand a certified copy and expect to get it. I think Onaka sent ne a black and white in the hopes that it would be good enough and he could say that he didn’t send out a certified copy. Thats what I think. That being said, I have a right BY LAW to obtain any document of mine. Onaka is not in the position where he can refuse it, he can’t even ask me why I want it and use that as a basis for his decision.
Hawaii and Onaka are NOT able to change the laws of the state, and in particular they are NOT able to change them on a whim.
I do have the receipt, and the envelope it all came in. I didn’t do the impossible. I did what I am allowed under Hawaiian law to do.
Oh, I thought it was from Hawaii.
Its VERY tempting. I have to say though, dealing with HDOH is a HASSLE. Its a pain in the arse.
I may just do that. Seeing as they never honored my first request or returned the fee I paid.... I will think about it. A big part of me is ready to throw my hands up in frustration and just quit all this. I am sick of being called a liar. I am really getting sick of that.
All because I tried to help, did so in good faith... and told the truth about all of it.
There is a lesson in that.
Don’t worry, it was a joke. :P
I agree.
And I'd demand a certified copy too.
No good deed goes unpunished?
Or in politics the truth is always a lie?
The question at hand seems to be what would constitute legal evidence in a court proceeding of paternity. And that seems to go back to one of the key misconceptions about this whole issue. The “birther” side (term used solely for characterization, not as a pejorative) has consistently advanced the thought that mere suspicion of Obama’s birth, absent any evidence or an actual case, mandates a court determination. That is, of course, not true.
Courts don't care what ungrounded suspicions some person has about another person, nor should they. Neither will a court accept for consideration the question of anyone’s birth/paternity/etc. unless it is relevant to an actual legal case that has passed the procedural hurdles necessary to make the docket. So asking what constitutes acceptable proof of paternity in a court case absent a specific case is a bit of a non-sequitur.
In general, however, if a valid case has been accepted by a Court that requires documentation of paternity, a certified birth certificate would be the standard. It can certainly get more complicated than that if two different men who were both intimate with the mother are claiming to be the father, but that's not the case here. If Obama were in an actual court case that needed to document his paternity, a certified COLB from Hawaii would be adequate to do so. And if some unrelated people in the Court started saying they didn't believe it, they would be admonished to be quiet. If they did not do so, they would be physically removed. Their uninformed speculations would be irrelevant to any determination.
There it is - the bottom line. The delusional clowns at those Obot websites cannot face this reality. It is a totally unambitious Hawaiian law.
Sure, Hawaii can stall, BS, jump up and down, and act like clowns. But they know they have to comply or possibly face an open a shut case court case in Hawaii that would make them follow the Hawaiian statute §338-13. Hawaii has no choice in the end.
Danae if it was needed, I'm certain a short letter with a short deadline from legal counsel would get Hawaii to issue you upon request a certified copy of your birth certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
unambitious = unambiguous
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