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Chilean Miners Rescue: Live Coverage
guardian.co.uk ^ | October 12, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 10/12/2010 3:22:27 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

Trapped Chilean Miners Rescue Beginning. Live Coverage

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chile; milagroenlamina; miners; rescue
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To: Bad~Rodeo

His idea was to do sections at a time and screw the next section to the last together as you go.


161 posted on 10/12/2010 6:42:41 PM PDT by justsaynomore (We've got some altering and abolishing to do! - H. Cain)
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To: tet68

I asked the same question about the line up issue. I think it has to do with the fact the shaft is not straight and takes a curve about half way down. So they are compensating for that lower curve half way down at the top of the shaft by having the cable at an angle.


162 posted on 10/12/2010 6:43:22 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

After the test runs, they beefed up the upper section, probably making the shackle more difficult to attach, plus its designed to separate if top part gets stuck and the cage will decend back to mine.


163 posted on 10/12/2010 6:43:30 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Let the other side get all wee-wee'd up, Remember come November)
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To: skippermd
Has anyone thought of what to do when these guys get the bends? Have they talked about this at all? Thanks...

I heard that the pressure differential is not radical enough to worry about the bends. I did hear they were giving them compression socks and some kind of a compression girdle.

164 posted on 10/12/2010 6:44:52 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Thank you, sir.


165 posted on 10/12/2010 6:46:03 PM PDT by old_sage_says ("Do not wish ill for your enemy, plan it.." Brad Thor)
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To: justsaynomore

The hole is only about 25” in diameter plus it’s not straight down. Not much room even for the capsule


166 posted on 10/12/2010 6:47:20 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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To: don-o

It would be less extreme than taking off in a 737...


167 posted on 10/12/2010 6:47:28 PM PDT by djf (OK, so you got milk. Got Tula???)
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To: don-o

I’m starting to wonder if they are having real trouble bringing this capsule back up. There have been significant periods where that wheel has not turned at all. You would think that it would be continuously moving if there where no problems.


168 posted on 10/12/2010 6:48:06 PM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Gotcha. That’s not even enough room to bend your leg to take a step.


169 posted on 10/12/2010 6:50:45 PM PDT by justsaynomore (We've got some altering and abolishing to do! - H. Cain)
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To: dusttoyou

Got you I think. So the capsule is bulit in two sections and the cage part actually has the cable connection and the top part is just there to deflect any falling rocks. If a rock gets the top part stuck the rider can release the cage and the cable can then let the cage return to the mine.


170 posted on 10/12/2010 6:51:49 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Batman11

Did they load in the sandbags?


171 posted on 10/12/2010 6:52:18 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: Batman11

They had some trouble on the first trial run. They’re on the way down on a second run with no one in it.


172 posted on 10/12/2010 6:53:32 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: justsaynomore

Not to mention the possibility of a cave in. Plus those too weak to climb.


173 posted on 10/12/2010 6:53:39 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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To: don-o

“Did they load in the sandbags?”

I did not see them do that. I think they are still descending, based on the way that wagon wheel is turning, the empty capsule.


174 posted on 10/12/2010 6:59:16 PM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: ArmstedFragg

Coming in late here... I read somewhere that it takes 40 mins to get the cage to the bottom and 20 mins to bring it up. Does that sound right? It’s going to take a long time to get everyone up if that is correct. Praying this works. Riding up in that contraption would give me heart failure (highly claustrophobic).


175 posted on 10/12/2010 7:01:03 PM PDT by buschbaby (Beware! Momma Bear on the prowl. Grrrr)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Yep! This is earthquake country.


176 posted on 10/12/2010 7:01:15 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Anybody try to get an estimate on the timing? My first guess would be about 5 meters per rotation of the wheel, ten seconds per rotation, 140 rotations, 25 minutes or so each way.


177 posted on 10/12/2010 7:03:12 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Batman11
You would think that it would be continuously moving if there where no problems.

They did stop letting out cable for a while. Now they are lowering it again.

I noticed the cable from the winch to the wheel seems to be bouncing as they let it out.

178 posted on 10/12/2010 7:03:32 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: buschbaby

While you were posting that, I was posting a guesstimate based on what I’m seeing, and I had about 50 minutes round trip per dude, so 20/25 minutes. I think I’d need tranqs for the ride.


179 posted on 10/12/2010 7:06:02 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’m going to guess that the way they have the “state run camera” set up, well be able to see them pull the capsule out of the hole, but then they’ll set it down behind the big Chilean flag. I would then guess the reason they would do this is in case the miner is freaking out, well... that’s just not something they would want to show on TV.


180 posted on 10/12/2010 7:06:14 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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