Posted on 09/30/2010 7:09:52 AM PDT by wideawake
Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino and Post State Editor Fredric U. Dicker last night got into an angry confrontation -- during which Paladino threatened, "I'll take you out."
It started when Dicker asked Paladino if he had any proof of his shocking allegation that Democratic rival Andrew Cuomo cheated on his former wife during their marriage.
"What evidence do you have for something most people would consider a smear?" Dicker asked.
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Insofar as I can read publicly available poll data and do arithmetic, sure.
New York independent voters are generally somewhat liberal on social issues and generally more conservative on fiscal and law and order issues.
Democrats beat Republicans in registration pretty handily in New York, so Republicans need to win independents.
Giuliani, D'Amato and Pataki were quite successful electorally with this strategy.
Independent voters in NY do not think the infidelities of candidates are a big deal and they are willing to overlook them in favor of bread-and-butter issues like jobs and taxes.
On that front, Paladino absolutely destroys Cuomo. That is his way to win the hearts and minds of NY independents.
Back-and-forth accusations of infidelities, conspiracies, etc. make independents want to stay home.
And if they do, Cuomo wins.
Paladino needs to get back to the bread and butter.
You still don’t get it, do you. Supposedly people already knew the story about Palidino and this child. It wasn’t necessary to do another story with pictures of the child.
That was lowlife. This was purposeful on the part of this Dicker fellow.
This is done to candidates and their children on our side all the time. If they can’t find any more dirt, they create it.
Look at Palin and her kids. Meg Whitman, I am not crazy about her, but the same is happening to her. They tried it with Rubio and now with Sharon Angle.
I think Cuomo and the democrats need to get some mud thrown back at them. High time they don’t get a free pass. And guess what? you can bet the sleaze about them won’t be manufactured by operatives and media prostitutes.
good for Carl - taking out the liberal trash. as a fellow NYC Italo-American, i was thrilled when Carl stood up for his family and privacy.
I gave an exact answer. I am not "from" New Jersey.
I was born and raised in New York.
I live in New Jersey.
So you wouldn't mind a reporter taking pictures of your daughter through a window?
George H. W. Bush was running for national office.
The average US independent voter is far more conservative than the average NY independent voter.
Apples and oranges.
Arithmetic? Is that New Jersey type "Corzine" ARITHMETIC?
Keep churning the pot... you're creating a whirlpool for yourself.....
It's looking like a flushing toilet.
LOL... I guess you're the heir apparent to Karl Rove.
You're even a National political EXPERT.
This mindless pap from you is getting out of hand.
Of course I'd mind.
My response would most likely be to wring the neck of the photographer in question, not to announce that another public figure had an affair, offer no proof, and then threaten to have an editor who was not responsible for the photography "taken out."
“No one here seemed too upset when cameramen were tracking down John Edwards illegitimate daughter.”
You do understand the difference between the two circumstances, don't you?
In the case of Mr. Edwards, he had maintained, and continued to assert, that he hadn't had an affair with Ms. Riele, nor fathered her child. Then, after he admitted to the affair, he said it was brief, and that he had proof that he wasn't the father.
The Enquirer wasn't trying to photograph the child, per se, and folks weren't particularly interested in photographs of the child, per se. The Enquirer was interested in photographs of Mr. Edwards’ interacting with the child, as that would have had the effect of reducing the credibility of Mr. Edwards’ assertions regarding his paternity, or lack thereof.
In other words, picture of child and dad were sought to uncover Mr. Edwards’ lies.
In the case of Mr. Palladino, he told his wife of the affair and the child over a year ago. It isn't something that he's hidden as a public figure. I know of no instance where he was asked by the news media whether or not he had an affair, and a child as a result, where he lied and said, "No, I didn't have an affair, no I didn't father that woman's child."
By all accounts, whatever his past sins (and those sins were a decade ago), at this time in his life, he is doing the honorable thing, given the circumstances: he sought forgiveness from and reconciliation with his wife; he is financially supporting his daughter; he acknowledges his daughter and works to make her a part of his life; he has been open to the public about his affair, his daughter, and how he has handled the circumstances.
Thus, there wasn't any need for a “news” photographer to go all peeping tom on the young lady. The outrage against the pervert photographer (and whomever sent him out on his mission) is justified.
The comparison between Mr. Edwards’ circumstances and Mr. Palladino’s is inapt.
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We’ll see won’t we? Polling will give us and answer in a few days or a week.
I say everyone but liberals like the idea of a forceful response to attacks on children, the kind of ‘I’ll take you out’ Pallidino gave.
Then I defer to your declared expertise.
Arithmetic? Is that New Jersey type "Corzine" ARITHMETIC?
No, just standard addition.
Keep churning the pot... you're creating a whirlpool for yourself..... It's looking like a flushing toilet.
Your imagination is drawn to disconcerting objects.
Let me ask the obvious question: do you really believe that it is a good idea for Paladino to give the media all the fodder it needs to shift this race from issues of substance to the personal lives of the candidates?
If so, explain why it is a good idea.
Correct. But they'd like to have evidence that the "attack" actually took place first, and that the person who is being "taken out" is actually the responsible party.
Balding_Eagle.... It depends on what MEDIA outlet does the polling.
Remember the MEDIA that called Florida for GORE BEFORE the polls closed in the "conservative leaning" central time zone Tallahassee and the panhandle.
They called Florida BEFORE the landslide Bush victories in the Carolinas... hmmm wonder why??
All conservatives have to run against the liberal candidate and their media minions.
You know, on our side we always say take the high road. We have been turning the other cheek to this crap far too long.
You can’t wrestle with pigs without getting dirty or the pig wins.
Look at McCain, he didn’t want to have it out with Obama. He lost.
We all know what this Dicker dude was up to. He can pretend serious journalism but we all know he started it and is now whining about it.
Correct.
In Paladino's case, the circumstances were different. His campaign spokesman announced at the beginning of his campaign that he had an illegitimate daughter.
Of course, at that point quite a few people had known this to be the case for months, and he had no ability to deny it so he wisely went public preemptively.
Though he also did say that the affair was brief.
Thus, there wasn't any need for a “news” photographer to go all peeping tom on the young lady. The outrage against the pervert photographer (and whomever sent him out on his mission) is justified.
The thing is, the only candid photos that have emerged of anyone involved has been photographs of the mother going for a walk alone.
As you pointed out, there really isn't any point in getting such photos.
If a photographer did what was described, there definitely should be a criminal complaint sworn out and arrests made.
If so, explain why it is a good idea.
If you read what I wrote before you would know what I mean.
The only way a conservative can defeat a media backed Liberal elite is to run an atypical campaign. The media wouldn't even cover them or.. they would do their utmost to destroy the conservative.
Your governor might not be as much of a type A personality as Paladino but he had to run against the media destruction machine.
Paladino wasn't even the endorsed Republican...Lazio was...of course.... An unknown hasn't a chance without doing whatever it takes to get his "attack" the corrupt system message out. By the way Paladino "buried" Lazio
Carl has got the media where he wants them... They can't ignore him now. NY NOW knows who he is and they WILL hear what he has to say.
Cuomo has been avoiding even a debate (as did Lazio)... now I don't think he can... Paladino is surging all the way to Nov. 2nd and a shocking victory....
Thank you to the liberal butt kissing media.. they have been had.
Amen indylindy! I liked that!
Thanks;^)
Correct.
Carl has got the media where he wants them... They can't ignore him now.
That's precisely the issue - he is in the spotlight, but can he reverse the media framing?
We tend to give campaigns more credit than they deserve for gamesmanship. Rove and Schwartz were at certain times considered to be geniuses here. Those assessments have been radically revised.
I see this outburst as provocative, but potentially very counterproductive.
Thank you to the liberal butt kissing media.. they have been had.
I hope you're right. But 2008 proves how powerful they remain.
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