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2 Rutgers Freshmen Charged Making Sex Tape Of Student (The young man killed himself)
PIX Channel 11 NJ ^ | 9-29-2010 | ARTHUR CHI'EN and SHELLEY NG

Posted on 09/29/2010 11:19:14 AM PDT by Frantzie

NEW JERSEY (WPIX) — A freshman at Rutgers University is believed to have committed suicide after he was secretly taped by two other students during a sexual encounter, police said. The video was allegedly broadcast on the internet.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bullying; consequences; crime; homosexualagenda; invasionofprivacy; privacyrights; richpunks; rutger; rutgerscriminals; selfdestruction; sexualharassment; suicide; video; wiretapping
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To: r9etb
There are folks who are quite clear on the fact that this kid's suicide was both to be expected, and also an appropriate punishment for his sin.

Suicide is common among homosexuals. As I told you before, in After the Ball, it is a talking point to blame homosexual suicide on societies view of homosexuality and not on depression or shame.

I haven't seen anyone that said he should die. I have seen posters say it was an outgrowth of his choices.

241 posted on 09/29/2010 3:24:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah
If the creeps had posted a video of him playing solitare on his computer, or chess, or reading, or taking a nap, he would have taken his life?

And I quote: "Many people on this thread are ignoring the fact that if this young man had not engaged in same sex acts, he would be alive today."

Still a load of crap. You blamed it all on him.

242 posted on 09/29/2010 3:25:10 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: MrEdd
You aren't a real Freeper until you hit the abuse button on yourself because you have more than one window open.

And give a reason that has no connection to the thread the admin goes to...

Ok. You got me beat! LOL

243 posted on 09/29/2010 3:25:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

I posted a follow up. This kid “Ravi” tried to film another student after he filmed the nerd kid. Maybe this is how he got caught.

He is an evil kid. People do not realize kids like this usually end up being criminals and they hurt more people.

I never posted the story to advance the gay agenda. Just to show how mean these rat kids are. I do not like bullies. Ravi probably saw that this kid was weak and knew it would destroy him.

I went to school with a Ravi. He was always a troublemaker but his wealthy parents bailed him out. He was probably a sociopath or psychopath. We could tell even at a young age he was a problem. I would run across his path every now and then. He transferred high schools because kids hated him at another school.

He ended up murdering a girl and everyone knew he was disturbed. His parents attorney go him off scot free. I loathe bullies. They got the newspaper to write glowing things about him and awful and untrue things about the girl because she was poor.

I have seen more than one Ravi in life.


244 posted on 09/29/2010 3:26:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I don't even know what that is.

Look up Skype. It's internet-based 2-way videoconferencing.

245 posted on 09/29/2010 3:26:27 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: jerseyrocks
First my prayers go out to this young man’s family.

Yes. And to the families of the other two.

Second, what if the young man had a heart disease and the malice actions of these two individuals caused him to have a heart attack and die? Would that have been manslaughter?

That's called "a strawman" argument and doesn't change the situation.

246 posted on 09/29/2010 3:28:13 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: r9etb; DJ MacWoW
Nope. I agree with what DJ said:

The first wrong action was the homosexual act. The second was the two taping it. The third was broadcasting it. The fourth was the suicide.

The dead young man is solely responsible for 1 and 4. The other 2 young people are responsible for 2 and 3.

247 posted on 09/29/2010 3:28:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Gene Eric; Yaelle

Homophobia? LOL!

I have gay family members. When I see them, I give them a big hug to let them know I love them.

That said, I rebuke their immoral lifestyle.

A normal sane person does not kill themselves. Do not hold me or society accountable for this man’s inability to cope with his homosexuality.

It’s not me who had a problem with his gayness, it’s the dead guy...


248 posted on 09/29/2010 3:28:32 PM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I don't agree with the kids lifestyle, but he did not deserve to be humiliated either.

I do agree with what one of the posters said on this thread though. The homosexual community will probably take this sad story and run with it. And that is not going to be pretty.

I think that the two boobs who did this would have done this to him even if they had caught him with a girl. They wanted to humiliate him and sadly, they succeeded. They are stupid and immature. They didn't put any thought into what his reaction would be. You just don't know what can push somebody over the edge. Therefore, you should think twice about doing this kind of thing to people.

If I were caught having sex on a web cam, and than found out that it was streamed live, I don't know what I would have done. When your just 18, you really don't have the tools to deal with this sort of thing.

249 posted on 09/29/2010 3:29:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: little jeremiah
If societal condemnation made people kill themselves, I’d be dead many times over from being called names on FR for promoting virtue instead of slutdom.

This is a very disturbing sentence, little jeremiah. Let's just hope you or someone you love doesn't reap what you've sown. That kid was somebody's son, somebody's grandson, somebody's brother. They loved him. God loved him, despite the sin. We all sin, including you.

250 posted on 09/29/2010 3:30:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DJ MacWoW

This is getting really disgusting. A young kid kills himself and the topic becomes a homosexual debate. These two idiots bullied this kid. That should be the TOPIC. They did something very wrong and should be expelled from school and serve time. It sounds like an involuntary manslaughter case.


251 posted on 09/29/2010 3:31:44 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: little jeremiah

Families have got to come out of the closet and speak the truth!

I wish there was a Tea Party for “Take Our Kids Back!”
Wait a minute, I already tried that, and they wouldn’t take him! (Attempt at joke.)


252 posted on 09/29/2010 3:33:53 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Why would the young man expect privacy in a shared room?


253 posted on 09/29/2010 3:34:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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To: Frantzie
I have to agree. From what I have heard, Mr. Clementi was a quiet kid. So he was an easy mark for being the target of a cruel person.

I have no tolerance for bullies either. They are just silly, insecure people with something to prove.

254 posted on 09/29/2010 3:34:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: DJ MacWoW

Would you consider mental illness a disease? I believe many people in our Country are suffering from depression, anxiety, etc. If this young man did suffer from something like that and the actions of these two caused him to feel trapped not able to escape, did they not cause his death? The reason for them apparently taping had to be to cause him harm in some way?


255 posted on 09/29/2010 3:36:45 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

I do agree with what one of the posters said on this thread though. The homosexual community will probably take this sad story and run with it. And that is not going to be pretty.

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I doubt it. It would not surprize me one bit if the facts came out to show this boy was the victim of an older male homo predator. That’s how these queers recruit new quuers.


256 posted on 09/29/2010 3:36:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: jerseyrocks
It sounds like an involuntary manslaughter case.

Nothing in any way shape or form was involuntary about the death. The young man committed suicide. That's an on purpose sort of thing, and really - it all rests on the person who chooses to do it.

Don't give in to the hateful lynch mob mentality. That won't bring him back.

257 posted on 09/29/2010 3:37:48 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: jerseyrocks
It sounds like an involuntary manslaughter case.

The young man sadly chose suicide. No one chose it for him.

The other 2 young people could serve 5 years in prison for taping and broadcasting it. Their reputations are ruined and they will pay emotionally for the rest of their lives.

258 posted on 09/29/2010 3:38:57 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TigersEye

No one expects privacy in a shared room. What if the kid hadn’t taped him but came back to the room because he forgot something? It’s his room too. No privacy can be expected.


259 posted on 09/29/2010 3:40:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ichabod1

“Why. They did not kill him. He killed himSELF. Was it wrong to video and post? Probably. A crime? Misdemeanor, MAYBE, and probably not even that.”

So next time someone places a hidden camera in you bedroom and posts it online, a $50 fine?


260 posted on 09/29/2010 3:40:43 PM PDT by mainsail that ('Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes')
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