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Blinded with 'science' - Atheist's worst nightmare takes apart Hawking's 'design' flaws
WND ^ | September 24, 2010

Posted on 09/25/2010 8:00:30 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

God didn't create the universe, Stephen Hawking says in his latest book, "A Grand Design."

Rather, the renowned physicist writes, "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."

Everything – created from nothing? The assertion begged a reply from the author of "Nothing Created Everything: The Scientific Impossibility of Atheistic Evolution."

"It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing," said Ray Comfort, a best-selling author and acclaimed minister who's confronted and confounded some of the world's most accomplished atheists. "Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing; it was something – a very intelligent creative power of some sort."

Hawking commits several "greater fallacies of logic," says Comfort.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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1 posted on 09/25/2010 8:00:34 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Hawkings is a very clever man, and has done some great work in pushing back the boundaries of Human knowledge. But there still are boundaries. For example, his contention is that something can be created from nothing “because there is a law such as a gravity”. So why is there a law such as gravity then? Why are the laws of physics like what we see?


2 posted on 09/25/2010 8:07:02 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Hawking is a talentless hack


3 posted on 09/25/2010 8:07:28 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Heh. Given the lunacies dribbled out by Richard Dawkins in response to his being pwned by the Pope and Stephen Hawking's most recent verbal diarrhea, I suppose we should rejoice that these 2 haven't decided to do EVERYTHING ascribed to non-believers in Romans 1:21-32.

Maybe this is is God's way of having a laugh at the expense of these 2. They are following this part of Scripture quite "faithfully" (almost).

4 posted on 09/25/2010 8:10:40 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
there's a corollary to Warhol's Axiom of Fame. It's called theinvisib1ehand's corollary on ignominy: “after your fifteen minutes are up you get a lifetime of ignominy.”
5 posted on 09/25/2010 8:11:17 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (after your fifteen minutes are up you get a lifetime of ignominy.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

relativity is a scam, too. unless I misunderstand it, which I suppose is a remote possibility.


6 posted on 09/25/2010 8:12:33 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (after your fifteen minutes are up you get a lifetime of ignominy.)
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To: Vanders9

His science has been polluted by extreme anger toward God so he has self-limited his own God-given, brilliant intelligence.

Most atheists I know are just really, really POed at God so they try really hard to ignore him and try really hard to convince others that he doesn’t exist at all.


7 posted on 09/25/2010 8:12:38 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

‘...the renowned physicist writes, “Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.” ‘

What was so special about 14 billion years ago? Why didn’t the universe create itself out of nothing during the eternity prior to that time? And why aren’t new universes creating themselves out of nothing all around us?


8 posted on 09/25/2010 8:12:38 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

A logical Atheist is an oxymoron. Atheism itself demands that reason and logic are false. They do this by denying the existence of the supernatural, but it is only the supernatural than can view the natural objectively, and only the supernatural that can truly reason.


9 posted on 09/25/2010 8:14:54 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
relativity is a scam,

How so?

10 posted on 09/25/2010 8:18:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: Vanders9

Hawkins recognizes that law is needed but does not want to called the law giver, God. He does recognize how to sell books.


11 posted on 09/25/2010 8:20:40 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

It would be simpler to refute Hawking by noting a scientist shouldn’t confuse opinion with data. Physics cannot speak to the time before the Big Bang because there is no data. You can’t measure the physical universe when there is no physical universe to measure. Without data you can’t prove one approach or disprove another. This places Hawking in the arena of philosophy - not science. And as a philosopher I don’t see Hawking as entitled to more weight then others.

Hawking could simply have said as a matter of Occam’s razor, it’s more reasonable to conceive a universe arising from “nothing” then a supreme all knowing all powerful sentiment being arising from “nothing” who THEN creates the physical universe. And let it go at that without making such absolutist and unprovable statements as to what “did” occur. But he didn’t.


12 posted on 09/25/2010 8:21:30 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
If there was nothing, upon what would gravity operate?

The whole thing is stupid.

13 posted on 09/25/2010 8:22:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: BipolarBob

by elevating the experiential to the absolute.


14 posted on 09/25/2010 8:23:16 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (after your fifteen minutes are up you get a lifetime of ignominy.)
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To: Carry_Okie
If there was nothing, upon what would gravity operate?

Itself! Wudooeye need to do, draw you a picture?!

15 posted on 09/25/2010 8:24:13 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (after your fifteen minutes are up you get a lifetime of ignominy.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The people of this country CAN create something from nothing... just as it has in creating a President out of a no-count, non-effectual nothing like Obama.

Does a vote record of endless ‘present’s add up to anything?


16 posted on 09/25/2010 8:25:50 AM PDT by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: Vanders9

God came first. Got it. Who made God?


17 posted on 09/25/2010 8:26:09 AM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: Vanders9

What is Hawking’s great achievement?


18 posted on 09/25/2010 8:34:20 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: lp boonie
Who made God?

God was, is and always will be. No one made God.

Funny, my statement of belief is just as much of a statement of belief as Hawking's belief in nothing making something.

19 posted on 09/25/2010 8:41:06 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: the invisib1e hand
unless I misunderstand it, which I suppose is a remote possibility.

Put down the remote and possibility of it having occurred would have been less possible.

For instance, what is it that you think is a scam: general relativity or special relativity?

20 posted on 09/25/2010 8:44:08 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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