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Calif. utility stumbles on 1.4M-year-old fossils
Yahoo News ^ | September 21, 2010 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

Posted on 09/21/2010 11:03:24 AM PDT by NYer

RIVERSIDE, Calif. – A utility company preparing to build a new substation in an arid canyon southeast of Los Angeles has stumbled on a trove of animal fossils dating back 1.4 million years that researchers say will fill in blanks in Southern California's history.

The well-preserved cache contains nearly 1,500 bone fragments, including a giant cat that was the ancestor of the saber-toothed tiger, ground sloths the size of a modern-day grizzly bear, two types of camels and more than 1,200 bones from small rodents. Other finds include a new species of deer, horse and possibly llama, researchers affiliated with the project said.

Workers doing grading for the substation also uncovered signs of plant life that indicate birch, pine, sycamore, marsh reeds and oak trees once grew in the area that is now dry and sparsely vegetated.

The fossils representing 35 species have all been removed from the site and will be on display at the Western Science Center in nearby Hemet starting next year.

The bones are about 1 million years older than those found in the famous La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles, said Rick Greenwood, a microbiologist who also is director of corporate environment health and safety for the utility, Southern California Edison.

"If you step back, this is just a huge find," he said. "Everyone talks about the La Brea Tar Pits, but I think this is going to be much larger in terms of its scientific value to the research community."

Greenwood continued: "Some of the things I personally find fascinating are the prehistoric camels and llamas and horses and deer. I don't think most people even have the concept that those types of animals were roaming around here more than a million years ago."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; fossils; godsgravesglyphs; hemet; paleontology; riverside
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While preparing to build a new substation in an arid canyon southeast of Los Angeles, Southern California
1 posted on 09/21/2010 11:03:27 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 09/21/2010 11:04:11 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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3 posted on 09/21/2010 11:07:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger

Definitely an old fossil of a new specie!


4 posted on 09/21/2010 11:14:11 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: NYer

Lies, lies!

Bad science.

Harry Reid and Helen Thomas are still alive.


5 posted on 09/21/2010 11:19:02 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Illegals just looking for the American Dream (Act)?


6 posted on 09/21/2010 11:21:20 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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In California, it is the law that all construction sites that involve digging must have an on-site archeologist. Not a guy they call out there if they hit something... an actual archeologist on site at all times. The stated purpose in the law has to do with Indian artifacts, but this will do.


7 posted on 09/21/2010 11:34:16 AM PDT by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: aquila48

She watched them go extinct...................


8 posted on 09/21/2010 11:50:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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need to give Creation as much credence as evolution..

http://www.icr.org/article/evidence-for-young-world/


9 posted on 09/21/2010 1:33:22 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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need to give Creation as much credence as evolution..

Absolutely!! Ever tried to make something out of nothing ;-)?

10 posted on 09/21/2010 2:16:30 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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Thanks NYer!
The well-preserved cache contains nearly 1,500 bone fragments, including a giant cat that was the ancestor of the saber-toothed tiger, ground sloths the size of a modern-day grizzly bear, two types of camels and more than 1,200 bones from small rodents. Other finds include a new species of deer, horse and possibly llama... signs of plant life that indicate birch, pine, sycamore, marsh reeds and oak trees... The fossils representing 35 species have all been removed from the site... The bones are about 1 million years older than those found in the famous La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles...
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11 posted on 09/21/2010 3:29:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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I was on a job in California years ago - the same summer Jurassic Park came out. We noticed some activity (blue tarps, etc.) as we would go to the jobsite. One time I finally stopped to go and see what they were doing.

Volunteers at a dig site where they had found some dinosaur bones where a utility was working (or trying to workd!). They had found some bones and were about to quit when the 8-year old son of one of the volunteers saw something as he was playing around in the hole. “Hey Dad - what’s this?”

Turned out it was the tip a bone of an almost entire Mastodan! They had a certain amount of time to uncover the rest of it, but then the utility would have access.

I remember thinking that kid can say “No, I didn’t get to see Jurasic Park, but I got to live it!” (Well, a mastodon - but close enough!)


12 posted on 09/21/2010 3:40:54 PM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: SunkenCiv

In CA???

I’ve met a lot of old fossils, but none of them looked like this....


13 posted on 09/21/2010 3:42:04 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot.)
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:’)


14 posted on 09/21/2010 5:09:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

:oþ


15 posted on 09/21/2010 5:13:48 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good thing I used to live in the area, or I wouldn’t have the least idea of where this was, based on the story. Hemet shouldn’t even be mentioned.

San Timeteo Canyon is just about 3 miles due south of Redlands (just east of Loma Linda, of University fame), and almost spitting distance ENE of March AFB located just outside Riverside.

I’d love to know more about the “ancestor of the sabre toothed cat” fossil.


16 posted on 09/21/2010 5:19:59 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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Thansk AGR!


17 posted on 09/21/2010 7:51:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Red Badger

I thought they died because they caught a glimpse of her . . .


18 posted on 09/22/2010 11:43:59 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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19 posted on 09/22/2010 11:54:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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LOL! Larson was the best, the absolute best.


20 posted on 09/22/2010 12:01:09 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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