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Powering Up (Israeli company makes dramatic improvement in jet engine design)
The Economist ^ | Sept 2, 2010 | Unk

Posted on 09/13/2010 11:12:15 PM PDT by Islander7

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Jet engines rely on Isaac Newton’s third law of motion: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. When a jet is running, a compressor at the front draws in air and compresses it (see illustration). This air is guided and diffused by static blades to allow for easier ignition when it is mixed with fuel and ignited in a combustion chamber. The reaction comes in the form of rapidly expanding hot gases, which blast out of the rear of the jet and thus drive the aircraft forward. As they do so, they pass through another set of static blades which direct and accelerate the hot gases to turn a turbine. The turbine is connected by a shaft to the compressor at the front, thus turning it and keeping the whole process running.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aviation; engineering; israel; military

Jet engines: A nifty new engine design promises to improve combustion efficiency, thus cutting fuel consumption and reducing emissions

1 posted on 09/13/2010 11:12:20 PM PDT by Islander7
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To: Islander7

So the exhaust exits in a rapidly-whirling vortex. What sort of wake turbulence does that portend for following planes? ...I’m thinking of the small-aircraft crash in Orange County, California, that killed several members of the family that owned the In-N-Out hamburger chain; their pilot’s crime was following too closely (meaning: not all that closely at all) to a 757: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3577048/


2 posted on 09/13/2010 11:22:23 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Islander7

Have they built a prototype? If so, where are the independent test results?


3 posted on 09/13/2010 11:24:45 PM PDT by TChad
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

The blast coming out of the back end would behave the same in either design, wouldn’t it?


4 posted on 09/13/2010 11:55:12 PM PDT by lurk
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast; spetznaz

I was wondering about that, too.

This kind of an engine will necessitate that they work in pairs, with complex feedback-control systems to balance each other’s induced turbulence.

I’m interested in seeing if there are any hard numbers to back this technology up.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 11:57:35 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

I’ll bet that if it proves to be more efficient, further computer enhanced designs will intricately shape the interior including the walls for even more gains. The results could give greater understanding to dynamic wind forces.


6 posted on 09/14/2010 12:15:43 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Prepare for battle and never forsake the Lord...unknown)
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To: James C. Bennett
will get additional energy due to compression of gases in the combustion chamber rotor area.....

turbulence is not an issue here since only a small diameter wake is generated..

the turbulence that affects small aircraft is generated across the outer length of the wing...in the case of a 747 could be 20 ft or so.

I am not an aeronautical engineer nor do I play one on TV.

7 posted on 09/14/2010 12:18:37 AM PDT by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

“What sort of wake turbulence does that portend for following planes?”

Not an expert, but as I recall my readings on wake-turbulence, turb originates from the wings/wingtips, not the engine(s) exhaust. So, not much difference at least as I see it.


8 posted on 09/14/2010 12:22:29 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Not an expert, but as I recall my readings on wake-turbulence, turb originates from the wings/wingtips, not the engine(s) exhaust. So, not much difference at least as I see it

Well played sir. Well played.

9 posted on 09/14/2010 12:34:13 AM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: Islander7

http://ae-www.technion.ac.il/staff/pages/117

This guy? I suspected Technion from the title. They’re real heavyweights on aeronautics.


10 posted on 09/14/2010 12:48:18 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: James C. Bennett

In the article link there are comments at the bottom that pretty much covers the flaws in the design and some other wacky posted ideas. Commenter ‘ntrgc89’ did a good job addressing the issues.

Me? I say hookup some inline aerators like for gasoline engines to the fuel lines to get better fuel/air mixing. It was working on the infomercial I watched and available at Pep Boys and Auto Zone off the shelf.


11 posted on 09/14/2010 1:12:59 AM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42

Mixing fuel and air outside the combustion chamber probably increases the explosion risk - getting the design to fail aircraft regulations.


12 posted on 09/14/2010 1:44:26 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: spokeshave

Thanks for the explanation!


13 posted on 09/14/2010 1:45:27 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Once the combustion gas stream gets through the turbine, it ought to be virtually the same. After all, the engine isn’t about wasting energy.


14 posted on 09/14/2010 2:12:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Islander7
Patent Application
15 posted on 09/14/2010 2:55:47 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: lurk

“The blast coming out of the back end would behave the same in either design, wouldn’t it?”

I believe it would be spinning, like a bullet coming out of a rifle with spiral rifling in the barrel.


16 posted on 09/14/2010 4:12:38 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Razzz42

Well if it works in an infomercial then it must be true. I know that I trust every infomercial. I buy everything I see on TV. Ron Popeil or the Sham WOW! guy wouldn’t lie.

Would they?


17 posted on 09/14/2010 4:57:41 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam and illegal immigration.)
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To: Islander7

greater efficiency = greater range for the same amount of fuel...an issue that could be of significant benefit to the IAF...


18 posted on 09/14/2010 5:09:19 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: James C. Bennett

“This kind of an engine will necessitate that they work in pairs, with complex feedback-control systems to balance each other’s induced turbulence.”

You’re thinking like a twin-prop engine pilot.

Unlike a prop plane, where the prop rotation is physically connected to the plane, the rotation here (if there is any on exit — this is almost a ballistics issue, more than a aeronautical issue) would “twist” independant of the plane.

(I am an aeronatical engineer. And a former IAF pilot.)

Plus, I bet this is for centre-of-mass craft or drones, where, if the issue exists, it just doesn’t matter that much.

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The issue to me appears to be sound. I could see how this would project sound at a MUCH higher volume than a GE turbine, making it impractical for commerical use.

Don’t know, though.


19 posted on 09/14/2010 8:09:41 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Thanks Islander7.


20 posted on 09/14/2010 4:41:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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