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Daniels: Tax hikes might be necessary (Mitch - 'we need to be grownups about it')
gop12.com ^ | Saturday September 11, 2010

Posted on 09/11/2010 8:41:55 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

From Andrew Romano's great new profile of a Mitch Daniels he portrays as pragmatic and principled (kind of oxymoronic, but one of Daniels' principles appears to be pragmatism).

To wit, his suggestions:

Let’s raise the retirement age, he says. Let’s reduce Social Security for the rich. And let’s reconsider our military commitments, too.

When I ask about taxes—in 2005 Daniels proposed a hike on the $100,000-plus crowd, which his own party promptly torpedoed—he refuses to revert to Republican talking points.

“At some stage there could well be a tax increase,” he says with a sigh. “They say we can’t have grown-up conversations anymore. I think we can.”

(Excerpt) Read more at gop12.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; elections; mitch; mitchdaniels; notmymanmitch; ourbetters; politicalclass; rulingclass; taxhikes
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To: Bigtigermike

Ditch Maniels.

- JP


61 posted on 09/12/2010 8:15:28 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Conservatism is not a candidate. It's a movement." - Jeffrey Lord)
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To: Bigtigermike
Tar and feathers for anyone suggesting a tax hike.

Yes, I'm dead serious.

62 posted on 09/12/2010 8:17:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: mo

I think Sen. Lugar was praising Mitch recently and wanted him to run for president as well as many Bush-ites.....I truly believe that the establishment wants Romney to be the guy but that they don’t believe he’s “got it” to win even with their help.....then it’s Newt somewhat and if they can’t then they will push Daniels


63 posted on 09/12/2010 8:18:18 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

The Rinocratic Party is grasping at straws.


64 posted on 09/12/2010 8:21:30 AM PDT by mo
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To: Bigtigermike

Another GOP idiot talking idiocy.


65 posted on 09/12/2010 8:23:25 AM PDT by cranked
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To: StormEye
To actually cut spending and stop the looting many federal departments and programs must be completely abolished. Not kept on a life line for a decade with the promise that they'll be finally ended ten years down the road. I say give these programs and departments six months to clean up the loose ends an then goodbye! Fire the employees and tear down the buildings if you must, to finally put a stake through the heart of these looter programs and organizations.
Totally agree. Push reset back to 2005 spending levels or before, then one by one dismantle entire departments. Let them howl. If you do it everywhere and all at once they won't know what to concentrate on.
66 posted on 09/12/2010 8:30:38 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Bigtigermike

didn’t he do this in Indiana? Those that make $100,000 a year?


67 posted on 09/12/2010 8:51:29 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Bigtigermike

I don’t like the lines of thinking at all. Cutting social security “for the rich” means they are thinking about it the wrong way in the first place.

Didn’t “the rich” pay into social security? Is that not their money? Who is the government, any government, to say “we took it from you, we promised to give it back at a prescribed time but...well...you made enough money so we’ve decided not to give you your money back”.

If I took a loan from Citibank and decided not to pay them back because...well...they’ve made billions in profit do you think they’d be ok with that?

The conversation should never - ever - be about who decides someone has made enough money. That’s a statist, collectivist line of thinking in the first place and will invariably lead down a terrible path.


68 posted on 09/12/2010 8:52:24 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deciet, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Totally agree. Push reset back to 2005 spending levels or before

Get rid of welfare for able bodies. Why are we being force to pay for these people? Why are we paying to make their lives as comfortable as possible BEFORE we can care for our own families?

If we don't pay the government each year to care for these freeloaders, no matter how bad off we are ourselves, the IRS comes to hunt you down. Welfare families first, and we get to keep the "change" that's left over.

We pay $40,000.00 for every one welfare recipient each year. It costs us even more after they have their multitudes of children.

69 posted on 09/12/2010 8:53:23 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Antoninus

So let me see—this bum is calling for a “truce” on social issues, and is ok with tax hikes.

This guy is a Republican???


He’s a Mike Castle, John McCain republican. Loosely defined as “liberal democrat lite”.


70 posted on 09/12/2010 8:53:47 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deciet, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: Personal Responsibility
Didn’t “the rich” pay into social security? Is that not their money? Who is the government, any government, to say “we took it from you, we promised to give it back at a prescribed time but...well...you made enough money so we’ve decided not to give you your money back”.

Exactly. Why is no one talking about the welfare freeloaders who can work like everyone else, but simply choose not to? They've never done anything for anyone. They've never contributed anything. WHY are we supporting these people, and why is no one talking about getting rid of this waste? It costs billions each year for these people to sit home on their lazy butts and contribute - absolutely NOTHING

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71 posted on 09/12/2010 8:59:00 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Bigtigermike
What would anyone in Washington know about being a grownup?

Here's a suggestion for dealing with the absolute mess you morons in Washington have made of the economy. Instead of raising taxes, we have a call for voluntary investment in a “Help Fix the Mistakes Made by the Idiots in Public Office Bailout Fund”. Citizens would be allowed to donate to this bailout fund, and all the money would have to be used to pay down the national debt. The fund would be managed by a group of private money managers, and by law none could be used for any government program, ever.

In return for this investment in the Bailout Fund, investors would receive a future tax break, to be used whenever they want, starting 2 calendar years after the investment. Further, in return for the Bailout investment, investors would receive proxies commensurate with their investment. Those proxies could be used to vote on the salaries and total compensation packages for all elected public officials and their appointed aides.

72 posted on 09/12/2010 9:21:07 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: concerned about politics

Id like to see the day that the federal government confiscates 50% of the politicians income just like they do to me


73 posted on 09/12/2010 10:19:54 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: Bigtigermike
Ok....what do you think?

I think Daniels is an idiot.

74 posted on 09/12/2010 10:22:22 AM PDT by upsdriver ((RINO: An acronym used by people who can't spell moderate or liberal.))
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To: DLfromthedesert

A Conservative believes in fiscal responsibility because he believes that citizens have the RIGHT to the fruit of their labors. He also believes that governments secure citizens’ unalienable right.

A “fiscal” conservative is an unprincipled RINO who claims he wants to spend less of your money than a democrat.


75 posted on 09/12/2010 12:22:30 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Notary Sojac

These are people who have had their paychecks raided for the last 40 years for this program. If they had those dollars, they could have saved it to spend on health care in their later years.

You can’t simply take away what people have already paid for. It has to be incremental.


76 posted on 09/12/2010 12:55:50 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Bigtigermike

Psssssst! Psssst!

Hey! How about tax cuts to stimulate the economy and how about spending cuts to “pay for them”?

IMHO


77 posted on 09/12/2010 2:21:50 PM PDT by ripley
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To: concerned about politics

My old tagline was “Most “have nots” are not “can nots” they are “will nots”.

Like most people, I’m all for helping someone get back on their feet until they can provide for themselves. The idea that we have generations born into welfare that live and die on the government dole though....that’s a disgrace.


78 posted on 09/12/2010 2:32:12 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deciet, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: Bigtigermike

Is he just unwilling to propose cuts in programs back by his “Democratic friends,” as the late Jack F. Kemp always called the opposition?


79 posted on 09/12/2010 2:39:36 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

After all, he is from the Land of Lugar.


80 posted on 09/12/2010 2:41:42 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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