Posted on 08/30/2010 6:33:31 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
Visalia, Calif. • A Mormon church official was shot dead between services on Sunday, and less than an hour later, the man suspected of the crime also died after a shootout with police.
Clay Sannar, 42, a lay bishop with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Visalia, southeast of Fresno, died after being shot in his office, said Visalia police chief Colleen Mestas.
Soon after the first shooting, a caller identified himself to police as the shooter. Police responded, and there was a confrontation with several shots exchanged, said Mestas.
The suspect was hit multiple times. He was taken to nearby Kaweah Delta Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead. He has not been identified yet. No officers were injured, Mestas said.
Tulare County sheriff’s deputies are taking over the investigation of the shootout involving the police officers. The sheriff’s department did not immediately return calls for comment.
Visalia police continue to investigate Sannar’s shooting, but have not identified a motive.
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He was content to kill any Mormon bishop.
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Oh so he was “laweyered up” with you beefore he went in ???
He told you that eh ???
You wouldnt be breaking attorney-client confidenciality would you ???
Boy old RINO Romney and his MittTwits are going to be a barrel of fun these next 2 years...
Want to lay bets on which month Romney will “drop out” ???
Or have you forgotten Mountain Meadows, Danites and Rigdon’s ‘salt sermon’ calling for the extermination of non-mormons (prior to the Boggs order).
No, you have to dredge up the wore out victim card and alledge that CURRENT opponents of mormon doctrine are advocating murder. I thought it was Young that was the “blood atonement” advocate?
Really, lying for the lord - always coming to you from a mormon ward near you.
You, as a lawyer, are referring to the accusing of a fellow Freeper of Murder by your equally compromised LDS lawyer buddy as SARCASM?
It's good for a giggle?
Every time I think you guys have reached the bottom of that slimy barrel, you dig even more putrid festering garbage.
Every time I think you can go any further down the road to hell I end up wrong, you found an even deeper pit.
Wow. 8/30/10.
We win.
The careful teachings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ do NOT lead to acts of violent retribution
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Well the Christian Bible doesnt...
But mormonism and its other jesus does...
several mormon doctrines and teachings on revenge killings...
And then theres that temple ceremony blood oath etc...
Great gory stuff...
The shooter was a former member of that church.
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Yes, indeed...however mormons aren't inclined to let a story about a mormon martyr go to waste..especially one that features the dreaded EX-mormon.
Gee for years many of you have posted railings against the Church and only recenly many have said how they want to destory the Church and leaders that it was evil etc.
None see no way to agree to disagree it is anit’s way or the highway!
and when something like this happens that the LDS are not to wonder about all of the anti LDS stuff across the interestnet if it wasn’t one of those posters?
They might even visted here on FR who knows???
None of FR antis have been very thoughtful during times of tragedties only it seems another opportunity to step on the LDS beliefs
This man was a former anti member and like a scab he would not leave it alone keep picting at it, which sad to say is what most who oppose the Church continue to do...
As how I try to live now I would try not to post those things I am aware now I must not look back like Lots wife it will do not good only continue to stir the pot I really need to be on the Lord’s side and that is by doing His will and striving to keep His Commandment.
“You should also pray for the family of the mentally ill, former mormon. “
“Of course; that goes without saying.
... let’s hope that’s why you left it out.
Tis true...
To use your words “If I had a penny/dollar for every time etc...”
You badmouth some Christian or church or ministry that did some imaginary trespass to po widdle victim you 20 years ago...
and to your Jack Wagon friends over in Mamby Pambyland..
Like a cup of water that made them sizzle...
> “the fact their not naming the suspect says a lot.”
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What it says, exactly, is that the reporter is incompetent.
The name of the shooter is Kenneth Ward, a former member of the church, who identified himself to the police when he called them.
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an innocent Bishop
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That guy might not have been so “innocent”
We dont know what he said that might have set that fellow Ken off...
If he went there to kill someone why sit waiting quietly and politely for some long ???
“This man was a former anti member and like a scab he would not leave it alone”
Such moving compassion, resty...
Really? Why don't you go check post #25 before you put your foot any deeper into your mouth. The "anti's" didn't start this flame war. You might want to educate yourself about the truth (if you're even capable of comprehending it).
Your feeble attempt to even draw a causal relationship to the RF and this act is contemptible. Post #217 looks like it applies to you as well.
You are not a Prophet.
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I never said I was...
Youre not a prophet either...
Joey Smith was not a prophet either...
Joey Smith was not God...
Joey Smith was a liar when he said he knew who was going to Hell...
Joey Smith did not know who was going to Hell...
See how much I have learnt from you ???
I would act surprised.
There is no “disagree” because this is not a case of equals. The Mormon organization is evil pure and simple, a scam that drags individuals into the very clutches of evil whilst they think they are being holy.
The evidence is overwhelming, and has been verified even more and more with each LDS posting here. NO PROOF, NO FACTS just accusation after unsusbtatiated accusation, the whipping out of the victim card and the tug of misplaced emotion to cover for dastardly lies and acts.
8/30/10
We win.
It is remarks like this to infer or imply that is so ungracious!
It is another way of stirring the pot and surely not how the sweet spirit of the Lord would counsel one to do.
“You should also pray for the family of the mentally ill, former mormon. “
“Of course; that goes without saying.
... let’s hope that’s why you left it out.
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To read this reply is it not about baiting that place in other to feel something by another insensitivities or void of those things of the Lord which sadly to say it seems some do not have that presend in their soul!
And deliberately trying to taint the LDS not caring for all involved in a tragedy!
Forgiveness: My Burden Was Made Light
I have to laugh at you and the woman attorney...you post venom accusing others of hate speech, at the same time you are accusing us of being "Christian Jihadists" and accusing some unknown FReeper of being the man that shot the martyred bishop...how long before we see a brand new version of "Praise to the Man"?
I think anyone who has followed these threads can see where the vitriol started...it started back at THIS POST "Hmmm. I wonder what his FR screen name was." by your buddy "lady" lawyer...which you jumped right on to agree with and add to...
Just keep up with your "holier than thou" attitude...you are showing much more than you intend.
The murderer was an ex Mormon; he demanded that his name be removed from the roles
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Fine.. I’ll go with ex-mormon...
as you are an ex-Christian...
Some one else called him a former mormon...
if his name was indeed removed from the roles...
though it seems like they refused to remove his name...
as you said yourself he was forced to demand they remove his name from their mormon corporation roles...
I wonder if he was right about the morg shunning and ill treating him
is that typical unsocialable behavior for the mormons against someone who just wants to leave ???
You never met him and yet you have judged him and called him names like “mentally ill anti-mormon” etc...
While idolizing the guy who was shot whom you equally never knew...
what if that mormon bishop was mentally ill ???
Why do you capitalize "church"?
Well of course....Resty, the killer was a former mormon, but "probably" visited FR. Yeah, that's the ticket.
If I read correctly....all the hater bigots...had kind words of sympathy for the man and his family.
What's an "anti member"?? Yikes!
Does LDS, Inc....continue to "pick the scab" and convert people to mormonism?
Help me God!
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