you are also an anti-property rights bigot. "Mighty proud" of that too?
Posted on 08/29/2010 8:27:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
I know Muslims who are NOT radical - they're nice people. Think of it like this - there's a big difference between Christians who are members of cults and Christians who are Methodist, Catholic, Baptists etc... We know the differences because it's within our culture. Muslims are the same, except the percentages are different. They have a lot more radicals than we have 'cult' members. That said, Islamic beliefs need to go through a serious reformation... lots of destruction ideas woven in there...
I know Muslims who are NOT radical - they're nice people. Think of it like this - there's a big difference between Christians who are members of cults and Christians who are Methodist, Catholic, Baptists etc... We know the differences because it's within our culture. Muslims are the same, except the percentages are different. They have a lot more radicals than we have 'cult' members. That said, Islamic beliefs need to go through a serious reformation... lots of destructive ideas woven in there...
I prepared the ground for my solutions with fact based arguments. If my argument that Islam is a totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion is true than my solution to strip Islam of all 1st Amendment protections is reasonable and follows directly from that assumption.
Why do you feel the need to lower the argument to the level of insults and irrational posturing that we are just bigots or just haters. I don't hate Isalm. But based on my knowledge of it's history and it's philosophy I fear it. In the same way our forefathers feared Nazism and Communism. Perfectly rational.
I have seen your posts before and you are a thinking person who is a true defender of liberty and property rights. But this issue seems to have blinded you, and others like you, to what history and experience, to say nothing of their own belief system, teaches us.
We are in a war, friend, for our system of government, for our Christian traditions, and our Western Culture itself.
Islam is the self proclaimed enemy of Western Civilization and I for one do not shrink from taking them at their word and acting accordingly.
Who is the guy in the beginning? He is very good looking.
I am what I am, and that’s all what I am: I’m SA& the Bigot Man. *toot* *toot*
News flash:
They've been doing that for 7,000 years. It's how they make their living. They're going to stop now?
The only way to keep Middle Easterners from lying to you is not to listen in the first place when they start complaining about you and trying to get you to back up.
For those who might have missed this:
Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. South Africa’s Muslim population is 2%, but they control 35% of the businesses, a large percentage of the banks and have five Cabinet seats while Christians (77% of the population) have none.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia; Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Ei: car-burnings in France last October.) Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines).
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Western Papua (New Guinea), Iran, Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria]. 10
0% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.
My question is serious. What do you intend to do if they practice their religion illegally? What if these illegal Muslims (who have been practicing in this country for over a century) are caught in secret services, praying, publishing underground newspapers, or reading the Koran. If you truly want to “face the problem,” you need to answer these questions. Can you?
First, local jurisdictions should file suits to compel the owners of the mosques and other buildings to pay real estate taxes on the grounds that Islam is not a religion under the meaning of the first amendment. This will serve to cripple Islam financially.
Second, we enforce the federal laws against the planning and conspiring to overthrow the US Government. No person has the right to advocate the overthrow of our republican form of government in the name of Sharia Law. In the Mosques today we have Imams preaching just such subversion. There is no need to arrest any Muslim unless they are actively plotting the imposition of Sharia Law. They can worship any god they choose. But once it crosses over to conspiracy to implement Sharia law that would be an illegal act.
There is precedent in this country for this type of legal defensive measures against a foreign enemy. The communist party was legally suppressed and it's leaders arrested or driven out of the country.
You may be shocked to know that I have visited many Muslim countries and have great respect for many Muslim men I have met. As men and as fathers. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground. Islam is the enemy of Western Civilization and needs to be driven out of every western country they have entered.
And the funny part is I have more respect for these enemies than the liberal multicultural appeasers who, if the Muslims take over, will be the first on the gallows.
I am as serious with my answers as I believe you are with your question. And I don't propose these things with any deep emotion. Just a cold blooded calculation about the danger we face and the way to overcome it.
The coming Clash of Civilizations is real. And I can understand an honest man like you reeling back in shock at what is coming if my proposals take effect. But it really isn't much different than our ancestors facing the prospect in 1775 of shooting their neighbors because they wanted to stay loyal to Britain. Or before the Civil War when Americans had to fight and kill each other for an abstraction like Union.
Average Muslims are decent people - as were average Germans and average Japanese before WWII - but unless they step back from their intent on bringing Sharia Law to this country they are enemies of America and must be dealt with in whatever way defeats them.
> When will Obozo enact legislation to “outlaw bigotry” in
> the United States and call for imprisonment of all who
> practice such an “evil and divisive belief”?
He has already taken the first step by reporting Arizona and 22 other states as human rights violators before the UN Human Rights Commission.
Buy lots of ammunition.
While you still can.
> What do you intend to do if they practice their religion illegally?
To practice their “religion” correctly, they must work to take over the government and replace the US Constitution with a 7th century, draconian, totalitarian, authoritarian, dictatorship enforcing “sharia” law.
Educate yourself on what “sharia” law is.
This constitutes a seditious activity. American citizens practicing sedition should be imprisoned. Non-Americans should be deported as “personna non grata” and never allowed to return.
The paragon of Moslem manhood is Mohammed the “prophet”.
All Moslems must strive to be exactly as he was, since he was the “perfrect man”, according to their tradition.
Mohammed was a pirate, a polygamist, a pedophile, a rapist, a murderer, a torturer, a slave trader, a slave owner, a truce breaker, a liar, a warrior, a Jew Hater, and all around genocidal, homocidal, lunatic savage.
Moslems have carried out 15,946 deadly terrorist attacks worldwide, killing hundreds of thousands of people, just since Sept 11, 2001.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
So far, during their “holy” month of Ramadan, which isn’t over yet, Mohammedans have killed 552 people in 130 separate attacks.
Their history is the most bloody, savage account ever compiled.
Benjamin Disraeli correctly asserted, “The borders of Islam are bloody.”
Winston Churchill wrote about Islam, “No greater retrograde force exists.”
Islam must be banned for being the seditious, cruel, anti-Constitutional, BIGOTED, HATEFUL ideology that it is.
But unfortunately we are talking to people, even conservatives here on Free Republic, who are living in a delusional world where history happened to other people a long time ago.
They cannot begin to fathom that it is happening to us here and now, just like it did to our ancestors. Islam is on the march and headed in our direction...and I am afraid that our fellow citizens are too comfortable in their ignorance and with the notion that we are just a bunch of bigots and fear mongers who believe fantasies. We are all going to pay a very high price for their delusions.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status.html
Amen, Mick.
Denmark has also started limiting mohammedan immigration. As a result, the Minister of Immigration had her house torched while she, her husband, and children were asleep inside. They managed to escape alive, but they are now living in a secret location with 24-hour guards. Islam is not only dangerous, it is expensive.
You Muslim-loving traitor filth are the worst of the worst. Worse than child molesters, worse than serial rapists, worse than Hitler. You say you support “property rights”? Ha! Where were you when small farmers had their land stolen by the EPA because a pond on their farm was labeled a “wetland”? Where will you be when a strip club, synagogue, BBQ joint, or anything else that’s offensive to Muslims buys land next to the mosque and wants to open up their business with THEIR property rights? Huh? That’s right, you’re nowhere around. You are a vile, subhuman hypocrite and a rotten, filthy cockroach of a liar.
You’re worse than Hitler because Hitler oppressed everyone, good and bad. He killed good Jews and evil Communists. You, on the other hand, think only evil people should have rights and good people should have none. That’s proof that you’re worse than Hitler.
Go catch AIDS and die, you subhuman neo-Nazi Jew-hating Muslim-loving America-hating Ron Paul-dick sucking maggot.
I’m sick of you people calling us bigots and haters of liberty because we think mosque opponents have free speech rights too. You’re the real hater of liberty. You’re a filthy subhuman fascist. You want to silence anyone who doesn’t like the mosque.
What are you going to do, build gas chambers and shove into them anyone who expresses an anti-mosque opinion? Don’t you remember the First Amendment NOW? Who’s the liberty-hater now, you cocksucking bigot?
I have to say that was one of the best tell-offs I’ve seen on FR.
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