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After I calmed down I was able to post this.
1 posted on 08/20/2010 5:23:52 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

SIOA

http://sioaonline.com/


2 posted on 08/20/2010 5:26:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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“It’s Not at Ground Zero The proposed structure is not on the hallowed ground of the former World Trade Center. It’s at an abandoned and private building blocks away that used to be the Burlington Coat Factory. That means that if every one of the “g’s” that Sarah Palin drops when she’s talkin’ folksy were 10 by10 feet large, you could still stack over 120 of them from Ground Zero to this community center. Easy. That sort of makes all the difference, doesn’t it?”

Why are the Islamicists so insistent that this mosque be built then?


3 posted on 08/20/2010 5:27:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: RDTF

The best way to debate the topic, you don’t like, is to debate it insisting that debate does not make sense.

Luckily the only thing that does not make any sense is such a debater, not a debate...


4 posted on 08/20/2010 5:29:19 PM PDT by alecqss
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As long as Christians,Jews ,Buddhists, or even atheists may not openly profess their beliefs or gather in places of worship of their own in Saudi Arabia ,not one more mosque should be allowed to be built anywhere in the world.


5 posted on 08/20/2010 5:31:40 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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It’s at an abandoned and private building blocks away that used to be the Burlington Coat Factory.

Have you asked yourself, "And just why is that building abandoned?" Answer: It was damage by the falling debris on 9/11. Gee, I guess that sort of *does* make it part of Ground Zero.

6 posted on 08/20/2010 5:39:28 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?Five?No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg.)
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This is not a multicultural issue....its far greater

Here in this issue, we get to see the power of Sharia. Cash coming in from Iran, Saudiland etc etc even Pakistan.

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, it’s economic system (which includes funding new mosque construction), its judicial...is in its sharia, and its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
Islam is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace. Globally.

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

The sooner America learns this , the better.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

For all interested...Wanna learn more?

http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

Lets keep America, America!

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.


8 posted on 08/20/2010 5:42:24 PM PDT by himno hero
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The guy's complaint is that the MSM is pushing lies. That's not news, but then he comes in and tries to tell us the THREE BIG POINTS.

I thought I'd take them in turn?

1. It’s Not at Ground Zero

Turns out this building is where the attack leader, Mohammad Atta, left a huge chunk of his plane including the landing gear and an engine. He also left the remains of the human beings the plane scooped up as it went through an office in the WTC.

In short THIS BUILDING IS GROUND ZERO. It's also still a building ~ the last big one that was damaged significantly in the raid. I don't know if these guys intend to just tear it down for souvenirs, but Fur Shur building a mosque on the site is in keeping with the oldest of Islamic traditions ~ the triumphal tower. Brings it inside the Dar al-Islam (Arabic: دار الإسلام‎) (literally 'house/abode of Islam') can refer to: Dar al-Islam, one of the divisions of the world in Islam.

2. It’s Not Strictly A Mosque A mosque by definition is a purely religious structure

In consideration of the history of Islam, Mohammad himself advised the construction of a multi-purpose "community center" to serve as a place of prayer, edification and performance of charity.

The original mosque, called the Quba Mosque contains:

residential areas

offices

ablution facilities

shops

a library

They also give the prayer there, and you can come inside and pray. This is in Medina.

Did you notice how this sounds remarkably like the facility planned to replace the current building?

3. You Can’t Simultaneously Acknowledge A Right And Insist That Your Government Suppress It

This is the rather convoluted argument the Moslems and their enablers are using to tell us that you can't say someone has a right and then criticize them for exercising it tastelessly and to the distress of others.

They slip that "government suppress" part in there just to trick you.

Moslems, like Leftwingtards, also like to dwell on the "hypocrisy" of others, and this argument about "inconsistency" is a rather ill disguised tossing of the "hypocrisy" charge.

It must be recalled that Mohammad said "Kill the Hypocrites". That's what this young man is telling you when he tosses this one ~ to wit: your criticism is worth the death penalty.

Anyway, these pukes are down to three main points. One is shift your attention from the fact that this is Ground Zero, the second that a mosque is just a place set aside for religion, and that third "I kill you" ~ just like our comedian buddy's little dead terrorist.

These people are totally transparent. They think no one here knows what they are up to or what they are doing.

9 posted on 08/20/2010 5:44:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RDTF; John Semmens
Calm down. Notice the source, Cracked.com, which for those in Rio Linda, was (is?) a humor magazine which competed with MAD Magazine in the 60's and 70's ... guess they're still around only on the Internet now.

The whole point of its rant is a long winded winding road of incoherent discombobulation seemingly to make a confused point, which in itself is pointless. Touche. Sort of like the Ed Anger rants from World Weekly News (remember that one too?)

Paging Mr Semmens, who does same on a regular basis here on FR :)

-- MM

10 posted on 08/20/2010 5:47:56 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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>> Article: And it’s due to the logic-hating, herd-mentality rhetoric

Up yours, you petulant scumbag!


16 posted on 08/20/2010 5:57:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: RDTF; All
Feel free to repost this for anyone that asks if the mosque is actually *at* Ground Zero:


See the big hole on the left. That's Ground Zero.
See the blue line? That's how far away it is. A little more than 500 feet. Ground Zero is more than 500 feet across. In other words, it would take longer to walk to the other side of ground zero than to the GZM.

17 posted on 08/20/2010 5:57:32 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?Five?No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg.)
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”when I first heard they were building a mosque at Ground Zero, I literally said, “What the fuck.””

Funny how he had it right the first time. Then bad information made him change his mind.
1. The building in question was damaged in the attack of the WTC. So much damage it wasn't repaired.
2. A mosque isn’t is a community center.
3. The HATE of others is the only thing the left understands

18 posted on 08/20/2010 6:00:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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There is NO way to say that an individual has a protected right to do something and simultaneously criticize your government for not suppressing the execution of that right.

I do no believe anyone is petitioning the government to stop it. In fact, what they are doing is asking the people exercising their right to practice their religion to also practice some common sense and responsibility in their doing so. While all Americans have the same rights under the Constitution, common sense applies in their practice......to everyone.

27 posted on 08/20/2010 6:49:05 PM PDT by edpc (Ruck Famadan)
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I don’t usually write about politics...
That’s good. You don’t understand the issues. Read and study for a few years and come back later.


30 posted on 08/20/2010 8:06:33 PM PDT by Old North State (Don't blame me, I voted for Pedro)
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