Posted on 08/17/2010 11:13:03 AM PDT by Natural Born 54
Here's something new for the birthers to chew over: President Barack Obama's passport. Says he was born in Hawaii! But the White House has strategically fuzzed out certain data, so the mystery continues.
Now, it's his official passport, which means it's new, so the true believers will not be persuaded. Not that they ever would.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Issued by Red China ?
“They have made assumptions about the birthright citizenship clause of the 14th amendment. Its a fair assumption, because the justices probably think the same way anyway.”
The 14th amendment concerns itself with Citizenship, particularily the citizenship of former slaves and their decendants, and not the Constitutional eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship for a president. In effect the 14th amendment has no bearing on the words written in the Constitution nearly 100 years before.
Although the term had/has a well known meaning in the 1700’s/1800’s there has been a great effort, even on this forum, to change the meaning in order to have it fit the known and/or speculated circumstances of Obama’s birth and parentage.
To date there has been no court case in the USSC challenging/clarifying the issue of the NBC requirement.....there hasn’t been a need to....because all Presidents (with the possible exception of Chester Arthur) have met the understood classic definition of born on the soil (jus solis) AND two citizen parents (jus sanguinis).
That Obama does not meet that definition provides the perfect opportunity to underline the meaning of NBC as understood and intended by the Founders when they wrote that unique requirement for the office of the President.
The COLB that OBama/Obama’s campaign posted online, is proof that he does not meet the eligibilty requirements as the Founders intended. The only remaining legitimate question is what to do about it?
Obama is certainly pinning his hopes on nothing being done until he has completed his Presidential (sic) term in office.
Awwww, but the explanation that a big conspiracy did it because they were grooming lil' Barack to be their Manchurian Candidate (they chose a black kid for the role in 1963 because they wanted to do it the hard way to show off their power) is so much cooler!
Remember, we're arguing with people who think "Occam's Razor" is the brand name of box cutter used by the 9-11 hijackers.
Looks like the story did do Obama some good. As we speak, stirred-up Birthers are spamming their friends with more conspiracy crackpottery, and more recipients are rolling their eyes and writing off the Right as a bunch of kooks.
You are exactly right! Passport photos must be taken with a plain WHITE background.
"Natural Born Citizen" means someone who is a citizen by birth (as opposed to a citizen by naturalization). This includes, but is not limited to, persons born in the US -- it covers both persons born in the US or persons born to a citizen and thus citizens by birth regardless of birthplace.
Much more compelling and logical than any of the propaganda nonsense you’ve been spewing, troll. Are you on payroll or just volunteering your time?
I think you’re paid.
Bunch of kooks rolling their eyes = Obamatons
My check must have gotten lost in the mail LOL.
Although the term had/has a well known meaning in the 1700s/1800s there has been a great effort, even on this forum, to change the meaning in order to have it fit the known and/or speculated circumstances of Obamas birth and parentage.
To date there has been no court case in the USSC challenging/clarifying the issue of the NBC requirement.....there hasnt been a need to....because all Presidents (with the possible exception of Chester Arthur) have met the understood classic definition of born on the soil (jus solis) AND two citizen parents (jus sanguinis).
Thank you. I see a lot of efforts have been made recently to try to redefine what "natural born" citizenship means. When Vattel's definition is brought up and quoted word for word, it's dismissed as poorly translated or as irrelevant. I've even seen some attempts to describe it as "international law" when it's really "natural law" (how many people understand that term today?).
I do not believe citizenship itself, American citizenship, is being taught to today's population: either to children in schools, or to the population at large. The recent influx of illegal aliens and chain migration by their families seems to be rendering it irrelevant. If "being American" means merely squatting here and saluting the flag of a foreign country, who cares what "American citizenship" means, much less "natural born" American citizenship?
True pride in this country and its heritage is today dismissed as jingoism, unfortunately. So much can change in a generation. It only takes one generation to forget what freedom is. Today's voters are being persuaded that what is foreign is superior to what is American. I am still thinking of what Kristof wrote.
This Ms. kind of defector acts like a Psychic in reverse, a true FINO, just to muddying the real issue with the same repeated argument like Goebbels used to hoodwink the Germans!!!
OK... then also just show his original birth certificate! Or his grade transcripts! Or a record of his votes in the IL state senate which are now sealed! Or how he was able to afford tuition and school at Occidental College, Columbia University or Harvard University! Or any transcripts of his writings as president of the Harvard Law Review! Or why he has multiple social security numbers? 0b0z0 is nothing more than a giant mystery of contradictions & coverups! This has got to the the greatest coup d’tat in civilization that a complete unknown & bewildering commie muslim pig like 0b0z0 could somehow become pres__ent of the USA. Unbelieveable!
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