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Is It Crazy To Call Californians Irrational?: The Weak Case Against Gay Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | August 11, 2010 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 08/11/2010 9:08:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/11/2010 9:08:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If 10,000 years of tradition isn’t good enough defense everything is fair game. That is the real goal. Destroy the foundations, you destroy the building.


2 posted on 08/11/2010 9:12:35 AM PDT by DManA
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What a giant red herring.

Liberals are admittedly skillful at presenting their viewpoint as the status quo while attacking the REAL status quo but they’ve got millennia of evidence and history to overcome while they play parlor games about childless marriages.


3 posted on 08/11/2010 9:14:15 AM PDT by relictele (Me lumen vos umbra regit)
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To: Kaslin

Any gay person may marry any person of the opposite sex he or she wishes.
Otherwise we’d have no Windsors.


4 posted on 08/11/2010 9:15:01 AM PDT by steve8714 (Our long national nightmare is over. We can resume our proper disdain for soccer.)
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To: Kaslin

Same-Sex marriage was never banned from California, even with Proposition 8. Same-sex couples were allowed social security, insurance, and inheritance benefits through registered domestic partnerships. The California populace clearly had no problem with that. The same-sex couples could call their relationships marriages if they wished to. However, the real issue here was the title part. If they want everyone to call their relationships the same as marriage, sorry, they’re not the same kind of relationship.


5 posted on 08/11/2010 9:16:43 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Kaslin
Sullum takes a flaky circuitous route to defend a Left-wing wacko homo judge. He makes it seem so easy to ignore the will of the people.
6 posted on 08/11/2010 9:17:56 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Kaslin

While common sense says that gay marriage will be bad for society, you can’t PROVE it—especially if its never been tried. And you would have people arguing about what is “bad”. Its hardly objective. One person’s bad is another’s good. Its like trying to prove that welfare has been bad for society. Most would probably say yes, except for the welfare queens and bureaucrats.


7 posted on 08/11/2010 9:20:12 AM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: DManA
If 10,000 years of tradition isn’t good enough defense everything is fair game.

Yep. We're now ruled by liberal federal district court judges and their ad hoc rationalizations.

8 posted on 08/11/2010 9:20:14 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: DManA

I see that the prop 8 team was pretty lame in it’s presentation. I suspect it is because they are assuming this will go to the SCOTUS, where they will prevail.


9 posted on 08/11/2010 9:21:05 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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RINOs stomping around conservative sites.

We have homo-trolls circulating on the fora trying to hype up support for homosexuals.

The article is one giant red herring.


10 posted on 08/11/2010 9:21:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rbg81

Stupid political stunt brought upon us by sociopath bullies who really hate the “normal.”


11 posted on 08/11/2010 9:22:33 AM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: Kaslin
Walker substituted his warped feelings for the law as twice approved by millions of Californians. One man rule is tyranny.

In an earlier time, the howls for impeachment and removal of this embarrassment to self government would be overwhelming.

12 posted on 08/11/2010 9:22:54 AM PDT by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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How long before Polygamy is also ruled a constitutional right?

Ted Olson, white courtesy phone please.

13 posted on 08/11/2010 9:25:53 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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If marriage were not an institution, your argument might make sense. But when one goes after an institution that is so deeply grounded in civilization, one inevitably takes a wreckingball to a structure that is so unimaginably complicated that one also destroys many other structures that are invisibly connected to it. This is Jacobinism. The destruction of monarchy was easy to conceptionalize, but the consequences incalculable.
14 posted on 08/11/2010 9:30:55 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Don’t you mean the author’s argument?


15 posted on 08/11/2010 9:34:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Yes.


16 posted on 08/11/2010 9:36:07 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Well, to my surprise it was an excellent and well-reasoned judgment. Not what I had anticipated, but the intellectualt clarity contained therein satisfied my initial doubts.


17 posted on 08/11/2010 9:36:23 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Kaslin
Yet when Walker asked Charles Cooper, the attorney defending Proposition 8, how recognizing same-sex marriages would impair the asserted state interest in procreation,

Next will be marriages to animals, robots, siblings,dolls,children,and marriages to multiple partners, and who knows what else.It is the slippery slope that will be damaging to procreation.

18 posted on 08/11/2010 9:37:15 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Why do persons of homosexual orientation insist upon calling what they want to gain “equity” with hetrosexual couples “marriage”?

They have been offered “civil unions”, a means of allowing the persons who choose to subordinate their lives to another of the same sex, the same advantages given freely to persons of opposite gender who have chosen to make this kind of long-term (even lifetime) contract. No matter how it is cut, the state-sanctioned marriage contract gives unequal apportionment of the rewards of married life to one partner or the other in the event of its breach. And even now, these advantages written into the tax code are being eliminated or denied upon expiration of the tax reform enacted early in the Bush administration.

And yet, even this offer of “civil unions” have been soundly rejected by a minority within the homosexual community, as “not enough”.

What do they really want? It has nothing to do with gaining any “right to get married”.


19 posted on 08/11/2010 9:38:17 AM PDT by alloysteel ("If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.")
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To: Yo-Yo

As you say, the whole argument against polygamy was not political or legal but societal.


20 posted on 08/11/2010 9:38:41 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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