Posted on 08/06/2010 7:48:36 PM PDT by CedarDave
State Police are investigating as a double homicide the deaths of two people whose burned bodies were found in a burned-out camper near Santa Rosa, the state Department of Public Safety said Thursday.
Gary and Linda Haas' bodies was found by a rancher in a 32-foot travel trailer about on a ranch 10 miles west of Santa Rosa and three miles north of Interstate 40. Two well-groomed dogs were also found near the camper, according to a search warrant.
State Police used the contact information on the dog tags to contact the Haases' daughter, who said the dogs belonged to her parents, the court document says.
The couple often stayed in state parks on their trip, including an area near Santa Rosa, the daughter said.
She described the couple as "very self-sufficient" and said both had concealed-carry firearms licenses.
The couple's white Chevrolet pickup pulling the camper was found in Albuquerque through OnStar, but police said there were no video surveillance cameras nearby and no witnesses who could describe any occupant of the truck.
(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...
There are a lot of permits out there, but for a married couple to each have one? That's unusual regardless of what state your in...
And in this situation, it didn't seem to do either of them a lick of good....
By the way, what was mentioned in #30 is exactly the first thing they’ll do, as they also go through the truck. Without video where the truck was dropped, and lacking interior forensics in the truck, the only thing left is to look at the victims backgrounds to see if they had people that wanted to hurt them. Hence the reason his and hers CCW was brought up....This will jump out at the investigators, trust me. Crime scenes from a burned out trailer would likely lack little if any evidence, that would ID the bad guy.
“Gary and Linda Haas’ bodies was found “
Written by an illegal alien ???? Bodies is plural .
Several months ago, I ended up stopping in Las Vegas NM for gas. That’s a bit north on 25, from 40.
That little town in NM seemed inordinately rough for its size, to me. There was a heavy transient feel to it. Like you really didn’t want to break down around there. Didn’t feel safe.
I shrugged it off. But now remember, because it’s pretty close to where this attack seems to have occurred.
I have Oklahoma relatives who are couples and who both have CCWs.
RIP.
“A little unusual they had his and hers CCW permits...”
Not if they are from Oklahoma
Apparently they weren’t in a state campground but somewhere isolated on a private ranch
Hubby and I live in Georgia and both have concealed carry permits. We always take at least one gun on road trips. Too many couples have been murdered in our vicinity. One nice elderly couple was hiking in the mountains and killed by what turned out to be a serial killer. Still, I half-jest that a person would have to be about two feet from me and have just announced, “I’m going to kill you” before I’d have the courage to pull the trigger. I have a feeling that shooting someone is not quite as easy as it sounds.
Adrenaline is an amazing thing. That, and the primitive human response to imminent death are powerful motivators. You may surprise yourself.
Here in Nevada it is very common for both spouses to have a CCW.
Going back to the picture of the pickup. I haven’t lived in ABQ for quite some time, but I looked at the satellite image and google guy of the Edith-Osuna area last night, and it looks much like I remembered it from being there. Pretty barren. There aren’t any shopping centers around that intersection that are that developed.
Oh, and I-40 into ABQ is also very barren. Given it is only a 2 hour drive, they wouldn’t really need to stop. There is only a few truck stops.
Read another article that said the pickup/trailer was seen on the security camera of the restaurant near where the burned trailer was found.
Maybe they came across someone broken down. Just don’t know enough yet. They were comfortable enough to let down their guard.
The fact that the pickup was ditched at the first exitI think you on to something big.
going north on I-25 would suggest that the two were
going north to the mountains of New Mexico or Colorado.
New article gives a specific address: 6601 Fourth Street. This is several blocks down from the Edith/Osuna area. Still pretty barren in and around the way there.
I'm sure you do, however, the fact is, it's not the norm for married couples to have his and hers CCW permits...
I'm one who thinks we're given those "feelings" for a reason, and that it's best not to shrug them off. Sounds like yours were right on target!
Going back to the picture of the pickup. I haven’t lived in ABQ for quite some time, but I looked at the satellite image and google guy of the Edith-Osuna area last night, and it looks much like I remembered it from being there. Pretty barren. There aren’t any shopping centers around that intersection that are that developed.
If you examine this image of the vehicle that was dumped by the suspect, it clearly appears to be located in a shopping center.
Yep, there are lots of small towns just like that nowadays, especially given the economic downturn, many of these smaller towns simply died an economic death.
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