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Referendum in Missouri: Will the Show-Me State Show Up Obamacare?
TIME MAGAZINE ^ | 08/03/2010 | Karen Ball

Posted on 08/03/2010 1:41:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Missouri voters go to the polls Tuesday for the first-in-the-nation referendum on President Obama's health care plan. It is likely to give Republicans a chance to brag about the unpopularity of Obamacare, but the vote will be largely symbolic. Courts will eventually decide whether Missouri and other states can legally trump federal law and exempt citizens from the mandate to buy insurance. But sending a signal to Washington will be victory enough for the Republicans and Tea Party activists pushing Proposition C.

"You don't need to worry about the courts when the people are trying to have their say," says Lloyd Smith, executive director of the Missouri GOP. "The people are saying this is going too far. It's a referendum on the overreach of the Obama Administration and the liberals in Congress." The vote is as much about "anger and frustration" at all things Washington as it is about health care, explains Representative John Diehl, a Republican from St. Louis County who was one of the chief proponents of the referendum when it passed the Missouri legislature.

But the specific issue boils down to this: Can the government require that citizens buy health insurance? Mandatory insurance is a key element of the health care reforms passed by congressional Democrats and signed by Obama this year. Adding healthy people to the insurance pool spreads the cost of policies for people with health problems. Missouri's referendum rejects that mandate by asking voters whether state laws should be amended to forbid penalties for failing to have health insurance.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: missouri; obamacare; referendum
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To: bert

Not likely. The shenanigans usually happen in downtown and in north St. Louis city. The lack of any real reason for Democrats to turn out, combined with the insane heat leads me to believe that the electorate will be heavily Republican. Prop C passes easily.

Hopefully Billy Long can pull it out in MO-7.


21 posted on 08/03/2010 2:42:29 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: BattleHymn

In my opinion blue hairs are dying out.

Ask your wife if they were truly blue hairs or grey haired men with women who’s hair was their recolor of choice.


22 posted on 08/03/2010 2:44:27 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Shouldn’t the Federal Government mandate that each citizen buy at least one apple per day? After all, by keeping the doctor away the cost to tax payers will be less.

Thoughts anyone?


23 posted on 08/03/2010 2:49:21 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: bert

Hah! She was adamant that they were women. She was more flustered by the old man running the A-J voter book commenting on how she looked too young to vote! He was there when I went, too. He is quite a card; looks to be in the 85+ age group, wearing high waters, suspenders, and a Spam baseball cap.


24 posted on 08/03/2010 2:49:24 PM PDT by BattleHymn
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To: lovesdogs

I don’t think those who are saying that the turnout is light have been keeping track of mid-term, summer elections over the years.

I actually do keep track of my voter number that gets assigned to me when I sign in. The numbering system is a simple count up of the number of voters who voted before me.

I always go to the polls at about the same time so as to establish a baseline for estimating voter turnout. Then, right before the polls close, my parents usually show up at the polls to vote. They then relay their voter numbers to me so that I have a more accurate count of voter turnout in our district.

I was assigned number 157 this afternoon. That’s about 100 more voters than four years ago when I was voter number 53 for that year’s mid-term, summer elections.

Therefore, at least in my district, voter turnout is running about 3x higher than four years ago.

Cheers


25 posted on 08/03/2010 3:29:46 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: lovesdogs

I voted at 4:00 pm and was #177. No one else was there.


26 posted on 08/03/2010 3:34:46 PM PDT by surelyclintonsbaddream (show us your birth certificate---millions of babies can't show us theirs)
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To: SeekAndFind

I also bit the bullet and voted for Chuck Purgason. I am not sure he has a chance but I figured it is not like, by my vote, I am giving the job to Carnahan.


27 posted on 08/03/2010 3:41:20 PM PDT by surelyclintonsbaddream (show us your birth certificate---millions of babies can't show us theirs)
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To: VRWCmember
Since the Constitution does not delegate to the US (i.e. Congress) any powers regarding requiring citizens to buy health insurance, nor does it prohibit the states from legislating in these areas, then the right to exempt citizens from such unauthorized legislation by Congress is CLEARLY reserved to the states or to the people.

Even if the individual mandate could be overturned, that doesn't get to the most destructive aspect of Obamacare -- the dismantling of the private health insurance market.

While nobody should be forced to purchase health insurance, not many people can pay for medical expenses out of pocket. The vast majority of us -- like me -- *need* health insurance.

The biggest problem with Obamacare is that it mandates the type of policies that are acceptable. That means one-size-fits-all policies that are going to be more expensive, e.g., no more cheap catastrophic plans for young, healthy people.

So even if my State of Virginia succeeds in shielding me from the individual mandate, I will still need to purchase health insurance, and the private insurance market is going to be offering very few -- and very expensive -- options.

The *entire* Obamacare law must be overturned.

28 posted on 08/03/2010 3:46:09 PM PDT by kevao
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To: SeekAndFind

Note to long time Freepers. This year’s Missouri Senate debates will not include our old friend Digger. He’s not running this year. The Green Party is running some strumpet from Code Stink. I was looking forward to the debates till I found that out. Last reference on the web I could find from Digger was a rambling nutbar letter to the editor from a year ago.


29 posted on 08/03/2010 3:59:27 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
...referendum on President Obama 's health care plan... Thanks SeekAndFind.
30 posted on 08/03/2010 4:00:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Thank you. 3x normal turnout could translate to a very big deal if it holds statewide.


31 posted on 08/03/2010 4:16:01 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: lovesdogs

http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrweb/allresults.asp?eid=283

Watch the returns. At the very bottom of the page is Prop C. It’s currently winning 70% yes to 30% no.


32 posted on 08/03/2010 5:35:22 PM PDT by Darth Gill
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To: Darth Gill

Here is a nice interactive map for returns re: prop c


33 posted on 08/03/2010 5:44:16 PM PDT by Darth Gill
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To: Darth Gill

http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrmaps/20100803/ballot_Issue_map.asp?eid=256&oTypeID=20&Tuesday,%20August%2003,%202010


34 posted on 08/03/2010 5:44:35 PM PDT by Darth Gill
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To: lovesdogs

Slow but steady stream of older folks in my area. Hot as Hades in the Ozarks. However, that may keep the ACORN nuts away as they may get even more squirrely in the heat. Bake what is left of their brains.
Prop C should breeze thru:)


35 posted on 08/03/2010 5:48:56 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Darth Gill

Thanks for that link. Now 68-32 yes.


36 posted on 08/03/2010 6:02:12 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: Darth Gill

Great map...thanks!


37 posted on 08/03/2010 6:06:54 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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38 posted on 08/03/2010 6:18:31 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: Artemis Webb
74.5%.

http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrweb/ballotissueresults.asp?eid=283

39 posted on 08/03/2010 7:59:13 PM PDT by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather

It is a good evening in Missouri!


40 posted on 08/03/2010 8:02:06 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012)
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