Posted on 07/25/2010 6:20:15 PM PDT by Suck My AR-16
Family and pediatrician tangle over gun question
It was a question Amber Ullman least expected Wednesday from her children's pediatrician.
Do you keep a gun in the house?
When the 26-year-old Summerfield woman refused to answer, the Ocala doctor finished her child's examination and told her she had 30 days to find a new pediatrician and that she wasn't welcome at Children's Health of Ocala anymore.
"Whether I have a gun has nothing to do with the health of my child," said the mother of three girls.
more> http://www.ocala.com/article/20100724/ARTICLES/7241001/1402/NEWS?Title=Family-and-pediatrician-tangle-over-gun-question
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II have a friend in MA whose doctor asked her if she was sexually active and if so with males, females or both.
How can they ask these questions with a straight face?
Speaking as a nurse I can say that ER nurses are being directed by Joint Commission to assess for domestic violence. When I do an admission assessment, I am required to assess for signs of abuse. In my current position, most of my patients wouldn’t show such signs, but we still are required to do so. That is where the questions about feeling “in danger” come from.
When I was in nursing school, the school had some speakers in to talk about domestic violence. The gist of their spiel was, the men always go free, if the woman fights back she is always arrested, etc. So I go off on about a co-worker I had once who shot her drug crazed husband who was holding a knife to her child. The police that responded told her to go to her family out of town to avoid retaliation by in-laws. They said “we see no crime committed here by you”. Totally upset their apple cart of victimhood!
Do you keep a gun in the house? When the 26-year-old Summerfield woman refused to answer, the Ocala doctor finished her child's examination and told her she had 30 days to find a new pediatrician and that she wasn't welcome at Children's Health of Ocala anymore.Another good reason all moms should carry a handgun.
I believe this is part of the new healthcare reform. I remember reading about this when the law first passed.
i would have answered “ i sure do”- i have guns in every room my house loaded to the max with hollow points, and i also have a tank in my garage— then i woulda walked out
Close to what I did answer about 15 years ago, my answer was yes, in every room in the house, including the bathroom. All loaded.
Never heard a word about it from the Dr.
Jack
“How can they ask these questions with a straight face? “
Homosexual practices are much more relevant to health than firearms ownership. There are things an MD would need to know in such cases. HIV, for one, plus, chlamidia is an issue with female-to-female contact, and syphilis with M2M contact, or if a female has contact with a male who has contacts with other males.
The married, straight community does not have the STD problems that other “communities” do.
Mine sent a questionaire to which I answered "WTF???" When I get in there, we're going to talk.
This has been an issue for years. Here are some earlier threads on the subject.
Pediatricians asking parents if they own a gun (2003)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/909747/posts
Keep Quiet or Walk Out - by Rabbi R. Mermelstein (2004)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172683/posts
Doc, what’s up with snooping? (Pediatricians turning kids into snitches) (2007)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1906717/posts?
First, there’s no reason for a 13 year old to be questioned privately by a pediatrician, as in this article. A parent should have been present.
About 10 years ago, the gun question came up during a pediatrician visit. I’d already been alerted to the issue from FR.
I told the doc that I didn’t think he was qualified by training or experience to advise us on firearms safety, and unless he could convince me otherwise (which he couldn’t, didn’t even try to do), that I saw the question as a professional boundary violation, which is a very serious thing.
He got a little huffy and told me it wasn’t, but he dropped the whole thing pretty much immediately.
There’s a nice questionnaire on this topic that the Second Amendment Sisters used to have. I can’t find it now, I’ll email them and ask about it. It’s a great thing to hand to your doctor if he asks this question. Many do it unthinkingly, simply because the American Academy of Pediatrics tells them to.
To expand on what I asked, ask your pediatrician if he is formally trained to offer househouse safety advice regarding firearms, swimming pools, trampolines, and the like, and does his liability coverage cover such advice? Further ask if the information is needed to treat any medical issues with your child, and if not, why is the question not a professional boundary violation?
Bringing up the issues of professional liability and boundaries ought to get a physician’s attention in a serious way.
Just a foreshadowing of the Neo-progressive utopia we will all experience when Obama and his national socialist minions get going with Obamacare.
See my previous post, #88.
I really think it important to push back a little bit, and not just immediately go find another pediatrician. Make these guys think long and hard about what they are doing in this area.
Great response, on that last! See my #88 as well, there is some additional “ammo” for you there in having these conversations.
If a mother lived in a bad neighborhood, not having a means of protection could be considered neglect. In many inner cities, not having a gun would be being a bad parent.
The Pediatricians Association is behind this, but behind *them* was the CDC in Atlanta. Here is what happened.
During the first part of the first Clinton administration, the CDC were told to start compiling gun statistics, with an eye to associating gun control with public health. But after the Republican sweep of congress, the Republicans told the CDC to cut that crap out.
In total, at first the CDC spent $2.5M to show that guns were bad. But then, they spent $400k, and got the honest statistics, and concluded that there was no evidence that gun control reduced gun crime. Then the CDC announced it was no longer going to conduct such studies.
However, the Pediatricians Associations took over for them, and started issuing “guidelines” to its members about interrogating parents about their gun ownership. This is their statement of 2000.
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;105/4/888
The last visit to the dr’s office they asked me. I lied of course and said no and made a remark about it really not being anyone’s buisness.
Or ban kids whose parents keep pit bulls. Or ban kids whose parents still smoke. There is no limit to the “you don’t fit the PC definition, your kid doesn’t get antibiotics for strep, you don’t get chemo.”
States should pass laws forbidding pediatricians from asking about guns. Penalty for doing so should be six or seven figures. They don’t have to be pediatricians if they are queer about weapons, but certainly if they want to pay the price for it, they can be impoverished pediatricians.
I bet they could get a hundred folks from that community who would sue. Would the NRA provide legal funds?Something should be done to nip this in the bud.
It could be a 4th, 5th and 2nd amendment case in federal court.
It's none of his damned business, and she SHOULD get another doctor for her child.
Mark
I was shocked, shocked I tell you.
My wife and I do have the Illinois F.O.I.D. and that info is readily available. That does not mean that we own guns, only that Illinois, in its wisdom, allows us to if we want to.
We still cannot conceal carry in this retarded blue state, no ordinary law abiding citizen is allowed that right.
Or ask him, how often he brushes his teeth. A question that has all the relevance of the gun ownership question.
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