What were you theeeenking citizen hmmmmmmmmm? Thinking is above your paygrade and therefore doubleplusbad and not allowed. 
Posted on 07/14/2010 12:49:09 PM PDT by Lorianne
When the 20 agents arrived bearing a search warrant at her Ventura County farmhouse door at 7 a.m. on a Wednesday a couple weeks back, Sharon Palmer didn't know what to say. This was the third time she was being raided in 18 months, and she had thought she was on her way to resolving the problem over labeling of her goat cheese that prompted the other two raids. (In addition to producing goat's milk, she raises cattle, pigs, and chickens, and makes the meat available via a CSA.)
But her 12-year-old daughter, Jasmine, wasn't the least bit tongue-tied. "She started back-talking to them," recalls Palmer. "She said, 'If you take my computer again, I can't do my homework.' This would be the third computer we will have lost. I still haven't gotten the computers back that they took in the previous two raids."
As part of a five-hour-plus search of her barn and home, the agents -- from the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office, Los Angeles County Sheriff, Ventura County Sheriff, and the California Department of Food and Agriculture -- took the replacement computer, along with milk she feeds her chickens and pigs.
While no one will say officially what the purpose of this latest raid was, aside from being part of an investigation in progress, what is very clear is that government raids of producers, distributors, and even consumers of nutritionally dense foods appear to be happening ever more frequently. Sometimes they are meant to counter raw dairy production, other times to challenge private food organizations over whether they should be licensed as food retailers.
The same day Sharon Palmer's farm was raided, there was a raid on Rawesome Foods, a Venice, Calif., private food club run by nutritionist and raw-food advocate Aajonus Vonderplanitz. For a membership fee of $25, consumers can purchase unpasteurized dairy products, eggs that are not only organic but unwashed, and a wide assortment of fermented vegetables and other products.
The main difference in the two raids seems to be that Palmer's raiding party was actually much smaller, about half the size of the Venice contingent: Vonderplanitz was also visited by the FBI and the FDA.
In the Rawesome raid, agents made off with several thousand dollars worth of raw honey and raw dairy products. They also shut Rawesome for failure to have a public health permit, though the size and scope of the raid suggests the government officials might have more in mind. Regardless, within hours the outlet reopened in defiance of the shutdown order.
Earlier in June, agents of the Minnesota Department of Agriculture, escorted by police and also bearing search warrants, raided and shut down Traditional Foods Warehouse, a popular food club in Minneapolis specializing in locally-produced foods. They also raided two farms suspected of illegally selling raw milk. And in a national first among such raids, agents searched a private home and made off with computers; the family's offense appears to have been that it allowed one of the raw dairy farmers to park in its driveway to distribute raw milk to area residents who had ordered it.
The Minnesota Department of Agriculture has declined comment on such raids, saying they are part of an ongoing investigation into raw milk distribution in the state in lieu of eight illnesses in May linked to raw milk.
Meanwhile, the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection has launched three raids over the last three months on the dairy farm and farm store of Vernon Hershberger, near Madison. The day after DATCP agents placed seals on his fridges storing raw dairy products in July, Hershberger cut the seals, and announced he was going to challenge the agency's contention he needs a dairy and retail license to sell his products. Obtaining such licenses would be problematic, though, since Wisconsin prohibits sale of raw milk, except "incidental" sales, and defining "incidental" has been a bone of contention for many years. In any event, Hershberger contends he sells only to consumers who contract privately for his food.
What's behind all these raids? They seem to stem from increasing concern at both the state and federal level about the spread of private food groups that have sprung up around the country in recent years -- food clubs and buying groups to provide specialized local products that are generally unavailable in groceries, like grass-fed meats, pastured eggs, fermented foods, and, in some cases, raw dairy products. Because they are private and limited to consumers who sign up for membership, these groups generally avoid obtaining retail and public health licenses required of retailers that sell to the general public.
In late 2008 and early 2009, the representatives of state agriculture agencies in Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois met via phone conferences with representatives of the FDA to map a plan for targeting raw-milk buying clubs in the Midwest. The meetings came to light after Max Kane, the owner of a Wisconsin buying club who was subpoenaed by Wisconsin authorities for the names of his customers and suppliers, obtained email accounts of the sessions via a Freedom of Information request to Wisconsin's Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection department. (Kane has since been prosecuted by Wisconsin authorities for contempt of court for failing to give up the names; his case is under appeal after he was found guilty last December.)
Now, the Midwest program seems to have gone national, and the recent spate of raids suggests a quickening pace and broadened scope. While most raids before the Midwest government meetings had been related to raw-milk distribution, some, like a December 2008 armed raid of Manna Storehouse, an Ohio food club near Cleveland, have been about licensing issues. In that raid, armed law enforcement officers held a mother and eight young children being home-schooled at gunpoint for several hours while they searched the home and food storage areas. A legal challenge to the raid by the family is still tied up in court.
The current uptick has Pete Kennedy of the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund concerned, not only about the spreading of the raids, but about the seemingly easy willingness of judges to hand out search warrants. While the U.S. Constitution's fourth amendment suggests judges should exercise tight controls over search warrants ("no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause..."), Kennedy observes, "I haven't seen an agency turned down yet" over the last four years in requests for search warrants connected with raw milk and other food production and distribution.
Given that the targets of search warrants don't get a say in court as to whether they should be issued, legal experts and those who have been raided say the most that food producers can do is take steps to prepare themselves to weather the raids as best they can.
Here are five suggestions they offer:
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Got the hog reference, Henry...
So, the girl was homeschooled... the plot gets CLEARER now.
White, Christian, Conservative, self-reliant, homeschooling to avoid leftist indoctrination...
They would indeed be a HUGE ENEMY of the left.
Milk from commercial dairies never touches the air-- it goes from the cows udder to cooling tanks.
My Dad was a veterinarian and the milk cows were a sideline to keep us boys busy. We never solicited sales, but we had plenty which sought us out. This was two decades before raw milk became trendy.
Our favorite customer was a guy who worked in the local commercial creamery. They bought raw milk by the truckload, but wouldn't allow the employess to even buy any before pasteurization.
This guy would also bring us ice cream. Anytime they were changing flavors in the mixing tanks, they had to remove the first 10 gallons or so from the new batch because it was mixed with the old. We never knew what we would get, but it was all good. He always insisted on paying us for the milk even though we tried to trade it to him for the ice cream he brought.
His explanation was that we spent the money for feed and sweat for labor to produce the milk, but all he did was remove ice cream which would have been discarded anyway.
Raiding farmers who sell raw milk and confiscating kid’s computers. WOW! I certainly feel SAFER!!!
How about raiding some of the drug gangs which have caused US territory to be OFF LIMITS to American citizens!!! Oh, that’s right. That would actually be DANGEROUS!!!
“Way too many Federal employees where they are not needed.....”
You win, BINGO!, Right-on, etc., however you could have stopped at “Way too many Federal employees”.
The Fed was not intended to be the Fed it is.
During WW II we kept a couple of cows, drank the raw milk, ate the butter and ice cream. No problem, but one tubercular cow in a herd of a hundred used to infect thousands before pasteurization. It used to be called the “white plague.” After the pasteurization laws, TB is not that common any more.
I don’t even know what a kulak is.
But I will say this. The last Depression laid the foundation for this, now here, depression. This one has the potential to kill this country. And Obaba is in place to ‘communize’ the rest of this population.
This is disgusting.
This story is extremely frightening to me.
A'yup.
In the Rawesome raid, agents made off with several thousand dollars worth of raw honey and raw dairy products.
And in a national first among such raids, agents searched a private home and made off with computers; the family's offense appears to have been that it allowed one of the raw dairy farmers to park in its driveway to distribute raw milk to area residents who had ordered it.
Raw honey? Parking? More computers confiscated?
I think I'm beginning to understand why shows like Dexter are so popular. The new century is going to require new skills.
“TB is not that common any more.”
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Because they call it AIDS now.
Actually, TB is quite common in parts of the country where illegal immigration travels on foot, and their garbage tends to be very infectuous.
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They sure do make it hard to get raw milk nowadays. I know in our state you can’t legally get raw milk unless it’s from your own cow. So this lady we know who has lots of cows sells “cow shares”, and each share you buy will give you a gallon of milk a week. That way we can get the raw milk because we technically own part of the cow.
It may be better tasting than pasteurized milk but it is in no way better for you. It doesn't matter how healthy the cows are or how clean they are. There can be many pathogens (brucella, salmonella) present in the milk that only pasteurization can eliminate and there is no way you can fully sterilize an udder. I grew up surrounded by farm families who produced their own milk and consumed it raw. My father would never let us drink it like the kids we grew up with because he understood the danger...albeit rare. One of the kids I knew came down with Malta Fever. He was just 10 years old and it almost killed him. Raw milk was the cause. He was never the same. It was a good lesson.
Raw milk doesn't need to be dealt with by storming the homes of providers however, anyone who thinks raw milk is healthier than pasteurized milk hasn't done their homework.
Mr Bowman needs to identify who sent these thugs and pay him a visit.
What were you theeeenking citizen hmmmmmmmmm? Thinking is above your paygrade and therefore doubleplusbad and not allowed.
This is just one front of the war on farmers that live on their land. The goal is to depopulate the rural areas of independent self-reliant people that Jefferson said were necessary and sufficient to maintain a free society.
Monsanto and the Sierra Club happily call it “rural cleansing”. Waxman and Dingell see it as gaining the terrain for ruling the people.
“Obviously it doesn’t affect everyone in the same manner.”
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That’s mostly because lots of people don’t have access to it.
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The real fear the government has is the growing of a black market. It's what brought down the Soviet Union. Commerce that provided buyers what they wanted and avoided taxes. The black market will in the end bring down imperial America.
And for sure cooked vegetables are safer than raw. Be sure to only eat canned tomatoes and canned spinach. It ought to be illegal to sell raw spinach.
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